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Mystique
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Salvation for the Dead (aka shadow people)
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It is common practice for the dead in purgatory to obtain indulgence from God through the Catholic Church for remission of their sins (C.C.C., X. Indulgences). This practice seems to come from 2 Maccabees 12:38-46. These indulgences are limited to those who die in the communion of saints (the faithful).

The Churches fail to teach the complete redemptive work of Christ. The Gospel message of salvation is to be preached to all men of all times and in all places. We must learn to search scripture with the loving heart of Christ. Jesus holds the keys to death and Hades. And the unfaithful dead in hell can be saved as well.

Revelations 1:18. I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.

Philippians 2:10. that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,

John 5:25. Very truly I tell you, a time is coming and has now come when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and those who hear will live.

Our good works can be offered up to Christ as atonement for the sins of the unfaithful dead in hell. Atonement is necessary because they did not have faith in the Messiah. This completes the gospel work of salvation. To say otherwise, is to cut short the redemptive work of Christ.

2 Maccabees 12:46. Thus he made atonement for the dead that they might be freed from this sin.

Some of the dead today are commonly referred to as “shadow people”. I have seen thousands of these spirits. And, I have received divine guidance in regards to them.

I urge those who have the dead in their lives or loved ones in hell to please listen.

Zechariah 9:11. As for you, because of the blood of my covenant with you, I will free your prisoners from the waterless pit.

It is all the same for God to free prisoners in this world from their captives as it is for Christ to free prisoners from their captives in the spirit world.

There are various shades of darkness and white or light in the spirit world. In which two kingdoms exist...heaven and hell. The darker spirits are malevolent and are in hell. Here, you can find "shadow people" in scripture.

Psalm 23:4. Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil, for You are with me; Your rod and Your staff, they comfort me.

Death surrounds us and we can see the shadows of the dead.

Shadow people are generally malevolent spirits of the dead. They are the lost human souls of the netherworld. It is the human condition that we are evil and wicked without God in the afterlife. The soul is in ruins. And in need of salvation (divine restoration).

1 Peter 4:6. For this reason the gospel was preached also to the dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in spirit.

And, it is by the power of God that salvation is made for us and the dead.

1 Corinthians 1:18. For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

Comment: Why is “purgatory” necessary, if salvation is by the power of God? Christ can save the dead in a blink of an eye. Although, Catholic myself, I cast my doubts on purgatory.

There is only one way to help these spirits. And that is by making atonement for their sins. In this way, their souls are restored by the divine power of Christ and they can be good spirits with their friends and family in heaven. Atonement is made by offering up our good works to the one and only risen King. One must be in good standing with God and have the door closed to these spirits before atonement will be accepted. This should be done as soon as possible.

Leviticus 19:31. Give no regard to mediums and familiar spirits; do not seek after them, to be defiled by them; I am the Lord your God.

Mediums and familiar spirits involve consulting the spirits of the dead. All contact with these or other spirits was strictly forbidden in Israel. It demonstrated lack of faith in and rebellion against God.

Remember, atonement can also be made for our friends and loved ones in hell.

1 Corinthians 15:19. If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men the most pitiable.

I find that offering up atonement to Christ for the sins of the unfaithful dead, to be of the utmost importance. It is the only way that Christ’s Redemptive work of salvation is complete.

In conclusion, this, my friends, is the most loving thing you can do for these poor, lost souls. And, may God bless you for such an undertaking.

Those who could not hear the music thought those dancing to be insane. - unknown author


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Ocean
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Re: Salvation for the Dead (aka shadow people)
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Stop proselytizing!

Seriously. Stop using the bible as a weapon. If you want to be a Christian, then follow the teachings of Jesus, the Christ. If you want to be biblican, you can continue to cherry-pick the bible for things you like.

Stop proselytizing here.



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Mystique
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Re: Salvation for the Dead (aka shadow people)
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This thread is not proselytizing. It is about salvation for the unfaithful dead in hell. And is not an attempt to convert anyone to Christianity. Also, it is correctly posted in the Religion & Beliefs forum. Here, I am using the Bible as a tool to help get souls out of hell (which is a very loving thing to do) and not as a weapon. Also, this is a controversial topic and I found it necessary to quote scripture to support my views. You obviously have your issues with the Bible, but you needn't take it out on others or this thread. Peace.

Edited by Mystique on 07/16/17 10:17 AM.




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Re: Salvation for the Dead (aka shadow people)
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For the record folks I think it is extremely important to talk about the spirits of the dead. Unfortunately Mystique you wont like this at all. But it is the truth and your opportunity to be a true Christian in your response. I wont be needing your condemnation or your selected bible quotes thank you very much.

The spirits of the dead are in fact the divine spark, that part of the individual that is eternal and passes from one incarnation to the next. It is most important to have contact with the dead, to pray for them and help them, especially if they have been unfortunate in their choices on earth. Also, the dead can help us if they were good in their life on earth. This is not evil unless you do it in the wrong way. If you ask for gainful purposes or ends that are not spiritual or good in nature you are most likely to contact the cast off soul corpses which are impure and cannot enter the spiritual world because they are tainted with impurity. These entities are more likely to be the shadow beings you mention Mystique. Purgatory is also known as Kamaloka. This is the purification process we must all go through after we die. For every hurt and wrong we committed in the life we have just lived we must experience it from the wronged and the hurt person's point of view - experience their pain and suffering caused by us. This then gives us a powerful drive to reincarnate and face our karma and put right what we have made disharmonious. Karma means we can take personal responsibility and control of our destiny and spiritual evolution of consciousness. Even though Christ forgives us we must still take personal responsibility and personally make good.

Christ united himself with the earth in order to heal us and the earth from things that we cannot make good by making good through karma. Everytime we commit immoral acts we strengthen and engender demonic forces into the world. Only through Christ's help can we make this part good. So between Christs healing and overcoming adversarial forces and our participation through karma and Christ's working through us can true redemption take place.


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Mystique
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Re: Salvation for the Dead (aka shadow people)
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Let me clear something up. There was no intention to condemn anyone with any selected bible quote. My purpose was to show how atonement of sins can be made for those who died without faith. For an offering to be accepted by Christ, one must not have familiar spirits in their lives. For me to tell you otherwise or omit the truth, would be a lie. This is absolutely necessary and is the Christian way.

Corbeau, it is good to see that you pray for the dead and want to help them. An offering of good works to Christ for the atonement of their sins is the only way to truly help these poor, lost souls. Then Christ, will restore (salvage) their souls with His divine powers and they can be in heaven with God, the angels, family and friends.


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