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Mystique
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Satanism is the Origin of the New Age Occult
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1 Timothy 4:1. The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.

Proof The New Age is Satanic (fixed)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtkGgtExLcY

2 Corinthians 11:14. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.

"And any teaching or doctrine that is pushed along side Lucifer/Satan should be dropped immediately. This is the enemy of Jesus Christ, who is trying to deceive and lead people into sin and deception before his time is up. Just like he deceived Eve, he baits people with promises of god-hood and ascension, if only they study esoteric knowledge and refuse to obey/follow/seek God. This is the same lie found in the first book of the Bible."


Those who could not hear the music thought those dancing to be insane. - unknown author


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Re: Satanism is the Origin of the New Age Occult
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Oh, for pity's sake, this is such a load of fear-based nonsense. Many people do not choose god-in-a-box dogma and prefer, instead, to evolve through study and personal spiritual paths. Referring to sensible people as "Satanic" is preposterous and mean-spirited. It's also an indicator of a very young soul who hasn't learned much.

If you really need to preach your version of Christianity, perhaps you should find those of your own ilk.



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Re: Satanism is the Origin of the New Age Occult
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The same would be true without Christianity. Deceiving spirits and demonic teachings still exist. The New Age Movement is a lure into the darkness of the netherworld.

Those who could not hear the music thought those dancing to be insane. - unknown author

Edited by Mystique on 04/30/17 11:06 AM.




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Re: Satanism is the Origin of the New Age Occult
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Traditional Christianity has unfortunately fallen into a false binary belief system. Good & evil; light & dark; heaven & hell. The first thing to be understood is that Lucifer (the light bearer) is not the same being as Satan the deceiver. Read the bible and the temptations they attempted to perpetrate on Christ. Very different indeed. It is not for nothing that their names are different. They are not the same being. Also, Belzebub is a powerful host of Satan but this being is not Satan. If you dont understand this then neither do you understand Christ. The most terrible and unfortunate result of a decadent church perspective is that you give Christ Luciferic attributes which is exactly what these beings want. Unless you understand that Christ is the balance between Lucifer and Satan you cannot underestand the nature of good and evil or these spiritual beings who have been integral in the spiritual evolution of humanity. It is Lucifer and Satan who give us freedom to choose and develop the moral strength by resisting them to become truly human.
If lucifer hasn't seduced Eve into eating from thye fruit of the tree of knowledge we would have remained perfect spiritual automata without any volition or free will. Thanks to Lucifer we have the ability to consciously out of freedom and love find our way back to the tree of life. So these beings are far more complex than church would have you believe.
Ultimately, with the help of the Holy Trinity we must participate in the redemption of Lucifer and Satan.


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Re: Satanism is the Origin of the New Age Occult
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Lucifer is Satan. And what you are teaching is Satanic and deceiving. It's a lie of the New Age Movement and against Christ.

Those who could not hear the music thought those dancing to be insane. - unknown author


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Re: Satanism is the Origin of the New Age Occult
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quote:

"...what you are teaching is Satanic and deceiving. It's a lie of the New Age Movement and against Christ."



Baloney. This statement alone sheds a glaringly bright light on your ignorance. You and your preachings are not at all what Jesus taught.


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Leviticus 19:31. Give no regard to mediums and familiar spirits; do not seek after them, to be defiled by them; I am the Lord your God.

Mediums and familiar spirits
involve consulting the spirits of the dead. All contact with these or other spirits was strictly forbidden in Israel. It demonstrated lack of faith in and rebellion against God.

You are being deceived and are on the path of darkness.


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Mystique the Holy Spirit needs you to be able to use your God given reason to really think and not to totally accept that you can only understand God through a church dogma.
Also, try to focus a bit more on Christ's teaching in the New Testament and then perhaps you can be more compassionate with those who find their way to Christ through a different path.
The Catholic Church had Joan of Arc burnt at the stake because she was able to experience Christ and the Archangel Michael directly without the need of the church. She is now recognised as a saint by the church.
Hatred has no place in a Christian path.




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Re: Satanism is the Origin of the New Age Occult
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mystique /mɪˈstiːk/
noun
noun: mystique
a quality of mystery, glamour, or power associated with someone or something.
"the mystique surrounding the monarchy"
synonyms: charisma, glamour, romance, mystery, fascination, magic, spell, charm, appeal, allure, awe
•an air of secrecy surrounding a particular activity or subject that makes it impressive or baffling to those without specialized knowledge




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Re: Satanism is the Origin of the New Age Occult
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New Age believers unwittingly seek deceiving spirits of the netherworld to use as spirit guides. They are into such practices as mediums and contacting the dead. All Satanic and against God.

The New Age Movement is a lure with promises of divinity with no need of Christ and a necessary understanding of Lucifer/Satan.

Those who could not hear the music thought those dancing to be insane. - unknown author

Edited by Mystique on 05/02/17 10:03 AM.




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Satanism may not be the origin of the New Age Occult, but it is Satanic.

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Re: Satanism is the Origin of the New Age Occult
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you namesake is synonymous with fascination, magic, spell, charm, which doesn't seem to be in keeping with what you are purporting.


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Re: Satanism is the Origin of the New Age Occult
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Mystique, I beg to differ. New Age has nothing to do with satanism. Please provide proof before making such outrageous statements. I am a medium, I have nothing to do with Satan or satanism. And I do not contact the dead. And nothing against God, to the contrary - I do believe in God.
No lure, no disrespect for Christ. Please don't make accusations of things you have not studied.


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Re: Satanism is the Origin of the New Age Occult
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Thank you Gerrit for your much needed intervention and my apologies for not leaving it there but I want to say a couple more things.
Mystique you are talking from a church institutional "we are the chosen & saved ones” mentality which is not at all unusual. But Christ is in you me and everyone else apart from those who actively work against Christ in a very conscious manner. Christ doesn't choose a select few he chooses all, no matter what their beliefs or levels of understanding. You are not in a position to say who is good and who is not from the point of view of Christ. Your speech is purely attitudinal - you talk in vague generalizations indicative of slogans and catch cries similar to "fight for peace" "love to hate the enemy" which is not Christian and it also shows that you have no understanding of “New Age”. If you actually followed in the footsteps of Christ you would be speaking in very different terms.
Finally, I have noticed over the decades that those who proselytize in a very judgmental and zealoutous fashion have not deepened their own inner understanding of their religious beliefs and so fear doubt and hate is projected by them out into the world at other people.


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quote:

Thank you Gerrit for your much needed intervention and my apologies for not leaving it there but I want to say a couple more things.
Mystique you are talking from a church institutional "we are the chosen & saved ones” mentality which is not at all unusual. But Christ is in you me and everyone else apart from those who actively work against Christ in a very conscious manner. Christ doesn't choose a select few he chooses all, no matter what their beliefs or levels of understanding. You are not in a position to say who is good and who is not from the point of view of Christ. Your speech is purely attitudinal - you talk in vague generalizations indicative of slogans and catch cries similar to "fight for peace" "love to hate the enemy" which is not Christian and it also shows that you have no understanding of “New Age”. If you actually followed in the footsteps of Christ you would be speaking in very different terms.
Finally, I have noticed over the decades that those who proselytize in a very judgmental and zealoutous fashion have not deepened their own inner understanding of their religious beliefs and so fear doubt and hate is projected by them out into the world at other people.


Thank you. I could not agree more.


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Re: Satanism is the Origin of the New Age Occult
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Gerrit, I apologize if I offended anyone. Feel free to delete the thread if you wish.


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Your post is very interesting. For a few reasons.

1.) I'm not sure if I've misunderstood but...I thought the bible was believed to be the unedited words of God? If so how can there be a lie in it?

2.) I came to the Abrahamic God THROUGH the new age and by channelling an archangel. HE taught me and is still teaching me respect for religion, for Christ and for God. I have more love for God, for Christ, for religion, and more awareness of these structures as authentic than ever before. The God I channel keeps asking me to become a catholic! So actually the new age bought me closer to God in many ways. AND I'll add that having a sexual relationship with my archangel taught me to respect sexuality too! AND to keep it between a husband and wife, AND to consider it sacred union, and a multitude of other things taught by the catholic church that you would never BELIEVE a normal, 21st century, non religious woman would feel! Before the psychic contact I was an angry, vengeful atheist.

3.) I disagree that anything to do with Lucifer or Satan should be dropped immediately. Satan offers us many lessons, and most of my lessons on fear came from Archangel Lucifer himself. By using what he taught me I've released a great deal of fear and been able to draw closer to God as a consequence. The darkness is a teacher. Jesus didn't shy from it. Why should we?

4.) God-hood and ascension. Doesn't the bible say that Mary was taken up into Heaven body and all? And Jesus rose from the dead and ascended to Heaven bodily too. The bible also has MANY stories of normal, sinful human beings who were chosen by God, who repented, changed their ways, sometimes from doing the WORST things imaginable. Murder, lust, rape, adultery. Yet God chose those people to be his messengers and prophets, to do his work on Earth. So if God can choose a sinner of the worst sort, why shouldn't I hope that one day he will choose me and I might achieve ascension like they did too? That's the same thing as spiritual new age ascension. Only packaged differently. New age ascension still requires that the holy spirit work through you to make you immaculate in every way, like Jesus. You still have to go through the same purging fire (the dark night of the soul/purgatory) and accept God to ascend, confessing and leaving behind all your sins, only in the new age you might call this releasing "negativity" or "fear." It isn't sinful or evil to hope for redemption, but it is misguided to try and do it without God.

5.) I know that you can study esoterics and still seek and follow and love God, because I do. I can't NOT love him. When I walk into a church to pray I see him waiting there on the astral for me. God is always happy to see me. He never judges my channelling. It is a gift he GAVE me. In a way he sent an angel into Hell to retrieve me, and that angel used all the available tools at his disposal, even the new age, to rescue me.

Religion and the new age can come together inside one person, grace can work alongside channeling or mediumship. It isn't black and white. God works in the most mysterious ways. He certainly has for me.


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