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WindSong
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Baptist, decieved, party, learn, stop, decide?
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So, when I was growing up, I found out the truth about the tooth fairy, Easter bunny, Santa, and simultaneously in church(Baptist). If Santa wasn't real, how was I supposed to believe in the teachings of my religious upbringing? Yeah... I couldn't wait to turn 18. Then 21. Drugs and alcohol, partying.

Then, one night I was at a friend's place, and he showed me the film Zeitgeist. Now that I had "proof" that Christianity was a hoax, who could I trust now? Did I have to trust anybody? Was reality really real? What was the point in living? If I'm going to die, why not die doing what I wanted? Drugs, music, drinking, empty relationships...

Then, I meet someone who's interaction displays the existence of souls. ("Well, while those two are in the car, how are we going to show this town's people that Karma is in fact real?" was what our souls were talking about. I don't know if she picked up on it, but I sure did. This is when I realized our time was temporary, therefore I covertly began to weep.) I often tell myself that I would experience that pain to experience that moment again. And it is true.

This was the match to my soul, the one that set me ablaze. If this is true, what else is true? I've had VERY metaphysical psychic visions throughout my life, and I once moved weather to a nearby area so it wouldn't rain on a certain local event. But Jesus was just a man. No special powers. Nothing you or I didn't have. The chart begins to balance out yet again, and here I am now.

Aside from the subjectivity of whether or not Jesus was supernatural, let's say for the sake of understanding, he was just a human with nothing supernatural going on. Is it wrong to view Jesus as an example? Is it wrong to apply his teachings to your own life? What I'm getting at, is do we really need religion to enter Heaven? Why can't we just do sincere good and be alright?

Keep in mind I am 27 and dropped out of religion only recently, therefore, I truly do not know the correct answer to these questions.


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Mathew
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Re: Baptist, decieved, party, learn, stop, decide?
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Truth/& lies are determined by how aware we are at any given time, the more we become aware the more lies & truths we will become aware of. Truth is only determined by how aware we are at any given time.

Was Jesus, Buddha & people like them special? I can't reach their level of enlightened awareness so does this make them special to me? Yes & no.

At the human level yes they are special however at the spiritual level their not because I believe we are one of the same.

I hope this helps WindSong




Acceptance of all leads to true spiritual awareness.


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WindSong
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Re: Baptist, decieved, party, learn, stop, decide?
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Is God Qi(life force), and is Qi God? That's the impression I'm getting.


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Mathew
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quote:

Is God Qi(life force), and is Qi God?



Could you elaborate on this WindSong as I'm not well read?

Acceptance of all leads to true spiritual awareness.


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WindSong
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Re: Baptist, decieved, party, learn, stop, decide?
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Chi/Qi is basically the energy of life. It's what Reiki healing focuses on, and what holds everything together. If our Qi is out of balance, we become depressed, upset, or generally uncomfortable. I suppose you could call it spiritual energy.


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Mathew
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Re: Baptist, decieved, party, learn, stop, decide?
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I get the same impression that they are one of the same WindSong, I also believe we are also that life force so we too are God, no separation just one of the same.

Man just separated this life force with his labels thus fragmenting consciousness causing chaos & harm.

Labels are brought about by ego which is of self-harm which causes a fragmentation of consciousness (labels & slots).

All energy to me is spiritual as it's all consciousness.

Acceptance of all leads to true spiritual awareness.


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Peachesx
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Re: Baptist, decieved, party, learn, stop, decide?
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I grew up Christian too and had experiences that made me see organized religion sometimes fabricates things to their own beliefs, and mostly that the problem isn't that faith or that Christianity is a hoax or a lie, but that organized religion gets us farther away from our own spiritual truth, the same way talking to other people and being too swayed by their beliefs does, or seeing a movie that we blindly believe.,, I've seen that zeitgeist documentary as well, and although many find it very interesting, just like most things people say, not all of it is true, and most in incorrect. It's great to explore faith, just make sure you're actually exploring it and not looking to reasons to discredit it or blindly accept it, just trust your self to find a path that's right for you, or better yet make your own ! I really hope you find what you're looking for, and being curious is a great start. Xo

PEACHES PARSONS - TRUE [censored] WILL


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Balance888
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Re: Baptist, decieved, party, learn, stop, decide?
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Quote- Windsong,
Aside from the subjectivity of whether or not Jesus was supernatural, let's say for the sake of understanding, he was just a human with nothing supernatural going on. Is it wrong to view Jesus as an example? Is it wrong to apply his teachings to your own life? What I'm getting at, is do we really need religion to enter Heaven? Why can't we just do sincere good and be alright?

Isn't that the whole point of the story? To set an example, to give people guidance. Unfortunately we aren't run by our hearts, if we were we wouldn't be where we are today.

Jesus and the experiences laid out in the bible are there to show us the way to accession. Spiritually didn't Jesus do what many have done, have visions, and been guided by Gods hand.

Love is the key

Edited by Balance888 on 01/02/15 05:59 PM.




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WindSong
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Re: Baptist, decieved, party, learn, stop, decide?
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Balance888, what a great time for your response. After a couple hours of overwhelming information, I log in the SB to find some clue, reassurance, a nod, a check, affirmation! That's the word, and I realize I was questioning Jesus earlier today. Well, yesterday, as it is now 1am here.

I could elaborate, but it would take forever, and I would go off on irrelevant tangents. But, I guess my questioning comes from the churches I was raised in, not Christianity. For years I believed that the church I went to was the one and only way to heaven. It took me some time to adjust my outlook on existence.


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