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Ijin
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09/09/11 09:25 AM


Re: Reason for the unimaginable nature of God
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Well if there is a god, then it would have to be smart.
If not we humanns would just outsmart it, or some other race of beings.
But yeah that`s why i don`t say that god does not exist, it depends on where and how.
Like he could exist by thinking about him, or by doing something good in his name, in that sense a god would have to be intelligent.

Or if indeed we created god, would he just be the collective of all people who believe in such an existence?
Or would he only exist in a certain format?
And being in such a format wouldn`t that mean that at least his construct should be intelligent?

But yeah i guess the nature of god isn`t really unimaginable, i think getting the right answer would have to be the result of many people who can confirm, like you do with channeling.

Since i ofcourse even if i don`t follow god ways., i`m still curious.

Might even be a nice project to try with more people able to channel, making sure that we get to know what we don`t know for certain yet.
Or well at least we can try

I`m working for everyone`s future dammit >.<


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Morkulv
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Re: Reason for the unimaginable nature of God
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That is again a matter of perspective. I know alot of people like you who think that the conditions on this planet are too 'perfect' to be coincidence.
However, I would like to add that according to science we as a species (among other animals) adapted to these conditions, and not the other way around (which I agree with).

This is also the main reason why science is so open to alien lifeforms, because they are a more likely possibility considering our own nature.


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Ijin
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09/13/11 02:08 PM


Re: Reason for the unimaginable nature of God
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Ofcourse any god wich we have ever written about could easily have been aliens, wich is also a suggestion wich is often made, especially when you get to pyramids and stuff like that.
Remember they made a whole tv series with that notion: stargate

But there is also an important aspect called the mental realm, basically that wich resides in the mind allowing certain things to exist within these conditions while not being in these conditions.

Wich was also another notion of mine about god being created and upheld within the collective space of likeminded people.

It is ofcourse a perspective matter since it involves the perceptive reality and that is something wich differs greatly amongst people.

But as things stand so far, through science god does not exist.
Through mind god exists to those who hold him.

And ofcourse this little notion: when scientific discoveries are made, like the mapping of our entire multiverse, wich you can find on youtube, etc.

While it`s scientific result and prowess wich attained that information, the god believing people hijack it.

Scientists come up with the greatest discovery so far and christians automatically say well then that is god.
Wich isn`t an explanation but rather something the united states does a lot, you find something and you put your u.s property sticker on it.

This is more something i find difficult to take, since after all it was science who found out and it`s just the convenient answer to keep faith up.
Since think about it, if they say the biggest thing is god, and science can tell how it works, where it is, what it does.
And believers saying well then that is god, then it is only fair for the scientists to say, well then if this is god, then we can tell you that all it is interrested in is existing, just like us.
In the end we will find our ways to make use of it, being universal travel or be it something entirely different.
If christians and other believers say the universe is god, then as we are a part of the universe we would be part of god and that still wouldn`t elevate god above ourselves.

However as i agree with science, the universe is the universe, not god.

I`m working for everyone`s future dammit >.<


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Gerrit
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Re: Reason for the unimaginable nature of God
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In reply to:

Or if indeed we created god, would he just be the collective of all people who believe in such an existence?


Nice twist, "we created god"! Uhm... I think it is the other way around...

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If not we humanns would just outsmart it, or some other race of beings.


That would be like outsmarting yourself. I believe God was simply that energy what was before the whole creation and evolution began - but as there was nothing else in the universe, what do you think the creation and evolution came from? So, I believe we are part of God, like a tiny piece of a great mosaic. If we all got together, all beings and simply everything from the universe, we would be... God. Yet part of God remains in energy form, which is why we can still talk about, to and with God, and there is not just the creation/evolution. Whether you believe or agree, is up to you - search deep within yourself, to find the truth. I believe we all have a spark of divinity within, and thus access to vast knowledge. However, this access is limited, as we could not handle it. But we can make small inquiries to this knowledge, through meditation. This is the only way to access true truth.


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Re: Reason for the unimaginable nature of God
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It may be easy to confuse the term Gods with the source God. Knowledge requires a commitment towards discovery, rather than assumption based on no commitment.

As the source, God is from another dimension...creating the universe from chaos that settled. Gods are anything that was recorded in the past, which is probably aliens. They may or may not be from this dimension, but are probably not on the same plane as the Source.

From my research, I consider almost all of history to be true or truth based. The Hindu had nuclear weapons and technology that included flying carpets...tens of thousands of years ago.

Greek myths are probably based on truth, aliens or not.

Hitler had ancient tablets that provided the recipe for nuclear bombs. We killed Hitler and brought back that knowledge and the Aryans, and then started our secret quests. Since WW2, America has basically conquered the world through covert actions, of which my father was part.

The Cuban missle crisis was a perfect example of how corrupt America is...making promises to include Russia in our reverse engineering and then killing the Kennedys. That was all about the ancient civilizations on the moon.

If you want to understand what humanity is, as well as aliens and the universe, look to the past. The planet is covered by ancient evidence of civilizations and visitors far more advanced than us.

One of the things we all have in common is the chance to seek truth, rather than assume it. Seeking truth will lead you to the light, because it is in plain sight. Assumptions are the ego's way to avoid seeking truth...and instead, inventing it.

Truth is discovered, not created. That is one of the many, many truths that the youth of the world avoid through assumptions. The truth is in plain sight, all over the world. It is our past.

If a young person was to have truth, it would be due to it being gifted, or through a tremendous commitment. Assumptions are the common everyday delusion that the ego offers.

How does it feel to be VERY common?

Wade

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Ijin
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10/04/11 02:49 PM


Re: Reason for the unimaginable nature of God
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When you think of it when older cultures named that wich they did not understand god and that process repeated and overtime less things where refferred to as god.

But as other things after we grasped the understanding better.
So when you have the basis then wich is god and the fact that we named it, means we created the understanding term, god.

Later on some shmucks labeled it as an omnipotential being, if anything this universe is a part of something bigger, but not the living being wich is supposed to be god.

As people thought further and further these things happened over and over and got refined untill the point we have now a whole anti god religion section as weird as that may sound, and ofcourse much more likable, atheists.
That hammer down the concepts wich we used to call god, or the work of god.
Then it all seems pretty simple that in that sense we created god.

We didn`t create that vast space wich we called god, but every other piece of holy doctrine tried to keep it that way.

Then the spiritual sense of god as an moni individuality, perhaps there is a collective, we do have clusters wich is basically a smaller version of a god cluster as we call it.

A god cluster would mean everyone on the planet connected in one cluster formation.

That could take out a lot of processes and can even be seen as some kind of universal correctioning method of the human spirit.

So i`m not sounding as off as i might have at first, but it is when you consider these kinds of things rather then only the textbook example of what usually happens.
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Well then softy we spoke before and i warned you not to go at it again.
Plus the story you tell now is in total conflict with you rprevious one, where your god sayings and promotions according to your books and that of someone else as the totalitarian truth and now god turned into aliens?

Then i`d say, before you act smug with me at least make sure you hold water, this is the second post i read from you and it is again offtopic and directly bothering a person.

If i was common, i wouldn`t need to try to make a point.

I`m working for everyone`s future dammit >.<


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Re: Reason for the unimaginable nature of God
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Ijin, if you want to label me then read my books first. All along you manufacture the image of who I am so you can get others to oppose me.

I wrote and published all my views long before I came here. I wrote and published my life story as well. Nothing you say about me is true. But you seem to have a way with people. I will leave it at that.

If I am not wanted here it is no problem for me. I have already written all I need to. I am only repeating myself because of egoic false pretenders.

So, this is my last post on this site. No one seems to care about things that are not under their control, which is very egoic.

Adios.

Wade

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