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Gatesofgrace
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Insights regarding the return of Yeshua!
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Imaging what would Yeshua (Jesus) share if asked to share a top ten... to do list.

1. He would rally those around him and give thanks to God the Father!

2. He would share the truth and the consequences for the "War on drugs".
- In a few days the truth would shock the world and the
prohibition on drugs would be revoked.

3. He would rally those around him and give thanks to God the Father!

4. He would reveal the truth and declare that all prohibitions demonstrate a lack of faith before God. He would then announce and repeal all prostitution laws before mankind.

5. He would rally those around him and give thanks to God the Father!

6. He would draw the wealth from every corner of the world and announce an inheritance to every child born to mankind.
- At the age of eighteen an inheritance of 7 years wages would be earmarked for every citizen. They are permitted only to buy or build a home when any choose to activate their inheritance. An additional supplement of 3 years wages will be provided for any who decide to get married before God. Each receiving their own inheritance with the additional 3 years added to the consummation. For the inheritance to be fully realized and signed over to the Estate in full and in time, the Family must be sustained for twenty (20)years as family living together.

7. He would rally those around him and give thanks to God the Father!

8. He would reveal the truth regarding Marriage and the sanctity of Love.
- this would reveal that there is only one Head for each household.
- then how to live righteous with an never ending display of duty, and love and dedication to all in the household and beyond.
- how the truth of an never ending romance would become realized to both beloved and lover.

9. He would rally those around him and give thanks to God the Father!

Please! Does any wish to add the last of the ten things on the "To do list!" before mankind.

10. ................


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Re: Insights regarding the return of Yeshua!
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He would teach tolrence to those that have their own beliefs and have have created other tenents, and love all those within view.

Richard


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Re: Insights regarding the return of Yeshua!
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Richard,

I like that! That would be a great teaching to share.

Just as one hand is slightly different to another, one used in carpentry another's that types poetry, both are to be exulted and respected. Each hand being an extension and expression of the creator him/herself. The expression of each living soul a manifestation of the Lord's spirit. Each talent perfected to share with another.


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Btw thats only 4 things...

My turn to add a few since you seem to have missed a bunch

#5. Bitch slap corrupt politicians...

#6. Take down multibillion dollar corporations and redistribute the worlds wealth back to its people...

#7. End starvation.... bring all poor nations up to par...

#8. Use george bush (Jr. and Sr) as a pinata (can't wait for that one, i called first dibs)

damn i could go on for hours, unfortunatly Yeshua missed the last train leaving from heaven a few years ago. He probably said "ah hell with it you guys screwed this planet up, you fix it yourselves"

LOL


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Re: Insights regarding the return of Yeshua!
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Akragon,

Thanks for completing the list. Can we include the Bush's Saudi friends as well? i might be coaxed to take a swing, why not, i'll take second dibs.

There is much to consider in the repeated 1,3,5,7,9, that i shared with a little more imagination. Thanks for sharing yours!

1.a When he rallied those around him, most were unable to get closer. When they were questioned, everything that came out of their mouths revealed the true nature of their hearts and the Lord directed some of the elders to tend to their needs and to hear them out until they repented and they could finally speak truth.

What else could we add for say 3a??

Edited by Gatesofgrace on 06/17/10 06:07 AM.




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Re: Insights regarding the return of Yeshua!
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There are some awesome reads that point to the fact that modern civilization began with the Torah and the clear distinction that homosexuality was deemed an abomination. This alone placed some checks and balances on the polymorphic libido of man. I recall shin pointing out this insight on the sexuality thread. That is to say that before these inspired teachings of the Torah were introduced every civilization carried out a full gambit that all of the above goes.

The truth in this reveals that the male libido has no boundaries on it's own.

From: http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0003.html

Human sexuality, especially male sexuality, is polymorphous, or utterly wild (far more so than animal sexuality). Men have had sex with women and with men; with little girls and young boys; with a single partner and in large groups; with total strangers and immediate family members; and with a variety of domesticated animals. They have achieved orgasm with inanimate objects such as leather, shoes, and other pieces of clothing, through urinating and defecating on each other; by dressing in women's garments; by watching other human beings being tortured; by fondling children of either sex; by listening to a woman's disembodied voice (e.g., "phone sex"); and, of course, by looking at pictures of bodies or parts of bodies. There is little, animate or inanimate, that has not excited some men to orgasm.

Having said that, does anything we see in today's society, echo the ways and means of the civilizations of old? Would the Lord include sexuality practices in the top 10 of things to understand?


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From my #8. Above

8. He would reveal the truth regarding Marriage and the sanctity of Love.
- this would reveal that there is only one Head for each household.
- then how to live righteous with an never ending display of duty, and love and
dedication to all in the household and beyond.
- how the truth of an never ending romance would become realized to both beloved and lover.

The opportunity for me to watch the CNN, "Gary and Tony have a baby!" certainly stirred the limits of my checks and balances that remained consistent to what is given in the "all". In so many ways the "all" is denied in same-sex relations. Some can choose to live apart from all that is, yet are they not forcing any adopted children to do the same?

The son, Nicholas i think, will no doubt live outside any social mainstream relationships with his peers. Not to say that alone is bad, but it will present views that stretch the imagination. Will he not long for his mother? Is it certain that he will be secular, adopting atheism as his forte', in an effort to support his adoptive parents? That is to say, if he doesn't totally reject them outright when coming of age himself, certainly after he realizes the truth behind the closed door activity and the chosen lifestyle of his family, if he doesn't share in the same. The surrogate mom, can no longer look at her own children the same way, as her thoughts will as well get caught up in this. Egg donor and all extended families all the more.

During the entire show, there was no mention of any of this, only that Gary and Tony wanted a family of their own. Senior members of their family seemed mystified by it all and while they try to support the choice of their child and/or grandchild, they cannot share in these values really, as they would first have to deny the sanctity of their own relations. Much in the same way that Gary and Tony have denied Nicholas the liberty and well-being of accepting what he may, for he will be forced to choose very early on.

Does Gary and Tony fit or comply in the #8. offered in my original post above? This one is feeling that such love as Gary and Tony's, might just be the epitome of selfishness as these questions come to mind.

To accept their love, do they not first have to deny their parents? Who is the head of the household? If their is none, then they must be equal. Who does Nicholas count on for nurturing or for discipline, does it matter? How will he couple with one of his dads with other sons and dads? What will Nicholas make of God or spirituality?

Regarding duty, love and dedication many same-sex relations can offer an abundance of nurturing and/or discipline, as they too have endured extended measures, just to accept themselves. In this, does the whole ideal of righteousness gets diminished or expanded as morality and the distinction between good and evil or right and wrong; right or good conduct has already been levied in the extreme?

Does the conduct of lover and beloved become restrained or even obscure as the child reaches puberty and examines their own sexual choices and behavior? If the child rejects his "parents" then what for the child?

All the best for the parties concerned. But this one wonders if these things have been truly evaluated. Not sure if it's even possible to do so. Love is not being questioned here... between two living souls. But can love be truly realized apart from the "all"?


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Re: Insights regarding the return of Yeshua!
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I loved your informative post. I Corinthians 36-38 is Paul's note on marriage, which I have never heard a pastor illuminate. It addresses the control of Passion, of which you discussed. I believe the "head of the household" as male/father was written assuming male/father was a spiritual leader/protector. However, our society is not demonstrating this. I believe tempering pure testosterone in society would have the same effect that livestock farmers observe: Isolate pure testosterone and have peace in the pasture. It is simply said, "If someone feels he ought to marry because he has trouble controlling his passions, it is all right. It is not a sin, let him marry. But if a man has the willpower not to marry, and decides that he doesn't need to and won't, he has made a wise decision. The person who marries does well, and the person who doesn't marry does even better." I have never heard one pastor on a Sunday morning speak of this!


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Sunsol99,

Your point is truly valid.

There is no doubt this debate is stirring. Only it cannot be the homophobic who reaches out so. Neither should a hetro or a homo (sexual) try to evaluate simply on the terms of their acceptance and/or choice.

Yet, there are some, let's say those everfree or those seekers after liberation that can grasp in part the significance behind such choices made.

This one, is no more a hetero... than a homo even as i've chosen the opposite sex to share in marriage. If it only comes down to body orifices or perhaps an intuitive intimacy of a lesbian relations, without anything else being considered... then we might all as well, get our kicks where we can and feel the best.

Yet, Paul further writes all things are permissible, but not all is constructive or beneficial. This brings us to what i call the paradox. In creation, shouldn't both the masculine and feminine be considered and revered. If one or the other is denied no matter how strong the bond between any two, they will eventually be forced into the paradox whereby they cannot reconcile fully into the acceptance of all things. This does not undermine who they are, but undermines the continuum that should be theirs, as in the acceptance understood and realized in the fullness of the all.



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It would be great to hear from those who are seekers after liberation or those who are an everfree to comment.

What is the truth regarding consenting adults to live as they please... regarding sexuality? If one is desired for another of same sex, and they deny that desire, how can they then be edified. What would be required... has any one done so? Once sexual gratification has been explored or seduced can the thoughts ( known impulses that please) for that soul be reshaped or undone?


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