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Hfactor
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05/12/14 03:13 PM


Winnowing fan
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Two men on a spiritual quest cross paths, one says to the other "follow me I have a map that my father has given me". 

The other man says " but your path is narrow, full of snakes, deep potholes, And up hill...a very hard walk...no come and follow me.

Which of the two men would you follow?



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Serenity01
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05/12/14 09:41 PM


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Re: Winnowing fan
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Quite honestly I wouldn't follow either one.I have never been a follower. Which one would you follow?


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Hfactor
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05/12/14 09:49 PM


Re: Winnowing fan
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In retrospect...perhaps it would have been better to ask...

Which of the two would you prefer to walk with for a while...


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Mathew
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05/12/14 10:50 PM


Re: Winnowing fan
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Neither, I will follow my own path!!

Acceptance of all leads to true spiritual awareness.


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Mathew
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05/12/14 10:53 PM


Re: Winnowing fan
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quote:

Which of the two would you prefer to walk with for a while...



The hard row to hoe, reason; awareness & wisdom is brought on by many experiences not few experiences.

Acceptance of all leads to true spiritual awareness.


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Hfactor
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05/12/14 11:29 PM


Re: Winnowing fan
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I salute the courage that it takes to expose your understanding of the riddle, Courage being a common charecteristic of morality.

There is no right or wrong answer per say, only an opertunity to reflect upon your choice which perhaps could promote growth AND likewise introduce myself to the forum with a little icebreaker.


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Serenity01
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05/13/14 01:42 AM


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Re: Winnowing fan
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Since you rephrased it, I would choose to walk with the man with the map.


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Hfactor
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05/13/14 07:04 AM


Re: Winnowing fan
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Interesting...there seems to be an aversion to the word "follow" as if it implies doing so with the eyes closed lol.

Perhaps it's perceived as a sign of weakness or some invisible badge of ignorance to follow another on a spiritual journey.

Oh well, ...as long as its not pride or arrogance... It's true wisdom is the product of experiences...but the experiences we learn from don't ALWAYS have to be our own. History illustrates how certain test in life which result in death may only be taken once.


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Hfactor
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05/13/14 04:28 PM


Re: Winnowing fan
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"Follow"...the aversion of such reminds me of a thread within the forum named " where are you" where the members here were chatting about the lack of activity within the forum.

I think there aren't too many people that perticipate in forums with the intention of conceeding to another persons reasoning, despite the fact that a wise person should ALWAYS welcome correction.

How much wisdom is required to understand ones on awareness...more so ...how aware must one be to see and understand their own lack of wisdom.


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Hfactor
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05/13/14 04:35 PM


Re: Winnowing fan
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I view wisdom as a thick leather harness of the mind that we use to keep knowledge and intelligence from becoming extremely dangerous


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Hfactor
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05/13/14 04:57 PM


Re: Winnowing fan
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I noticed that both courageous participants of the riddle thus far have chosen to walk the difficult path alongside the individual with the map....

Myself, I would gladly hold hands with the second traveler and walk the easy path...


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Mathew
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05/13/14 05:32 PM


Re: Winnowing fan
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I believe it takes courage to become aware Serenity01, you have always seemed courageous to me.

Acceptance of all leads to true spiritual awareness.


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Mathew
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05/13/14 05:38 PM


Re: Winnowing fan
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To follow is to look at what you are following not to notice what you are walking through. To some this is blindly following with eyes closed.

There is no harm in following as long as you are aware of the experiences of the person you are following.

Acceptance of all leads to true spiritual awareness.


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Serenity01
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05/13/14 05:44 PM


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Re: Winnowing fan
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Thanks Matthew……...


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Mathew
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05/13/14 05:50 PM


Re: Winnowing fan
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quote:

Myself, I would gladly hold hands with the second traveler and walk the easy path...



Interesting, does this denote that others have something more to learn by walking along a more courageous path but you don't?

It's usually not a choice but a need especially when choosing a more courageous path to follow, a need to become more aware.

Your saying you have no need to become aware of what a more courageous path can teach.

Awareness & wisdom need to be gained & this takes courage so of course I will take the more courageous path. Becoming spiritually aware takes courage to start with so in fact you have already chosen to follow along the courageous path.

Acceptance of all leads to true spiritual awareness.


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Hfactor
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05/13/14 05:57 PM


Re: Winnowing fan
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quote:

To follow is to look at what you are following not to notice what you are walking through. To some this is blindly following with eyes closed.



Last week I went to visit my son in Dallas / Fortworth area...hectic driving to say the least. He met me at the Walmart because the new construction had made my GPS useless.

I had to follow him for several miles through some of the worst traffic I've seen...although I was following...it was GAME ON ..lol

Traffic zooming, merging , changing lanes, ...closing the eyes while following anyone...doing anything is foolish.

Just as foolish it is to not concede to sound reasoning within a forum and mutually benefit while our paths have crossed for this short time.


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Hfactor
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05/13/14 06:14 PM


Re: Winnowing fan
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quote:


Interesting, does this denote that others have something more to learn by walking along a more courageous path but you don't?

It's usually not a choice but a need especially when choosing a more courageous path to follow, a need to become more aware.

Your saying you have no need to become aware of what a more courageous path can teach.



Short answer...no...I simply choose to walk with the individual that demonstrated the gift of sight and could clearly see the hazards that lay on the spiritual path...seemed to me I might learn from him as well...without using what is widely considered as the lest method of learning.

Perhaps it's less about me...and more about my choice


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Mathew
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05/13/14 06:25 PM


Re: Winnowing fan
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When I'm following someone I don't notice the buildings, the tree, flowers, birds & so on, I'm focused in following. Yes I notice what takes my attention but not what should take my attention if I wasn't following someone else.

I don't follow anyone on forums sites & because of this I become aware of more on this path with others than I would have otherwise.

Acceptance of all leads to true spiritual awareness.


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Mathew
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05/13/14 06:43 PM


Re: Winnowing fan
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You didn't say that the other man had a gift of site initially.

I would rather have a map showing me what to be aware of than follow along a less hazardous path blindly without a map.

Actually in this case the path without the map is more hazardous even though it's less hazardous. To me it's wiser to take the seemingly more hazardous path with the map which shows you such hazards than to take a seemingly less hazardous path blindly.

The gift of insight is actually from the bloke with the map, he actually portrays a little wisdom as well.

Yes of course, we have something to learn from both paths, this of course depends on our needs however. Each persons needs are different, I do tend to forget that at times.

Acceptance of all leads to true spiritual awareness.


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Hfactor
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05/13/14 07:12 PM


Re: Winnowing fan
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quote:

You didn't say that the other man had a gift of site initially.

I would rather have a map showing me what to be aware of than follow along a less hazardous path blindly without a map.

Actually in this case the path without the map is more hazardous even though it's less hazardous. To me it's wiser to take the seemingly more hazardous path with the map which shows you such hazards than to take a seemingly less hazardous path blindly.

The gift of insight is actually from the bloke with the map, he actually portrays a little wisdom as well.



LOL...I love your process...it's fascinating.

Lets say that you went back in time...and met your younger self and your younger self didn't accept that you was he.

What on earth could you say to your younger self to convence him to walk with you instead of having to endure what is considered as the lest noble methed to acquire wisdom...

The reason I ask is because , as you well know, arragence does not abide in the mind of the wise.


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