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Robbiesan
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Story + Belief
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Ok, as regulars here know, I am constantly searching within to release pain, and shift my consciousness. Recently I have a couple more things taht have made a world of difference for me, and can for you too.

In the past I have posted about changing beliefs in our subconscious minds. I know this can be difficult sometimes as there may already be opposing beliefs within that resist change. They are not being difficult, it's really a math thing (i.e. +2 + -2 = 0 = resistance/cancelling out). So how do you get that +2 to stick? You need to remove the -2.

Two things that helped:

Brian Grasso - FTR Nation (FTR = Free-thinking Renegades) - regarding our "story"

Seth: The Nature of Personal Reality - awesome book!! - regarding our beliefs and much more to be honest (half way through the book. I highly encourage anyone of the path of self discovery/re-membrance to get this book.)
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Here are techniques I am using with myself to great effect, and can you for you too.

The Story. We tell ourselves a story about ourselves and Life. Problem is we think it's true, and so believe, perceive, create, and receive what we believe in. I did not understand that I could change my story, and that was a difficulty for me, and likely for many others. So, point is, simply start telling yourself a different story. You do not need to struggle and be frustrated, but if you tell yourself that old story....

Example: Old story "I am filled with pain and must heal. I am unhappy, and will be happy eventually. I can't afford.. not enough.. (you get the idea). Look at that story, and wow, there it is made manifest. New story: "All of me is in balance, alignment, and harmony. I send/receive peace, love, joy, harmony, oneness, gratitude, and abundance." See the difference there? Huge difference. So, bottom line, be aware of the story you tell yourself about you and Life. The inner self listens constantly and takes as true what you input. (input = output)

Belief: We believe things are true as we grow up ("learning" from the outside-inward). The thing is none of it is really true, however we do not know this, and take what we are told about ourselves and Life is true. Not so. That is only apparent truth (appears to be, because you believe it you experience it), and not absolute truth (remember, Life is actually an illusion, 99% pure space according to science). I have been going through my belief system, and evaluating every belief that comes up, and determine if this represents who I really am in the Now. Most of these beliefs are not resonant with my true self. How to work with beliefs...

Example: "I'm not good enough. Humans suck, we are terrible and destroying ourselves and our planet. I can't afford it. I am unhealthy, and overweight." What you believe, you receive (note: Believe = Be Living). Here's what I do: "I have decided I do not believe that I am not good enough. I have decided I do not believe that Humans suck, and we are terrible and destroying ourselves and our planet. I have decided I do not believe that I can't afford what I want. I have decided I do not believe that I am unhealthy, and overweight." In this, I am telling my subconscious that the prior beliefs are no longer valid. Now I tell myself things like "in my current story, I am good enough.. humanity is awake, enlightened, and being who we really are, and have created Heaven on Earth.. I can afford to buy anything I want.. I am always in optimal health." See the big difference there?

So, yes, beliefs and the stories we tell ourselves are of the utmost importance, as our subconcious takes it as a truth and manifests it within our 'reality'. There are no limits, or 'reality checks' here, just the willingness to let go of everything you think you know about you and Life, and choose to be a conscious Creator (as opposed to unaware Creator). The only thing in your way (or not) is you.

One more thing: I also tell myself "I am being my 5D self and am fully integrated." It's that time. 2014 for me is an energy and consciousness of "[censored] it... it's that time. the old stuff it all goes. the Phoenix arises." Pardon my French...

Lastly, for the doubters, do you believe "it" because it's true, or is "it" true because you believe it?

Love you!!
Robbie


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Cheeneka
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02/28/14 02:07 PM


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Hi Robbie,

Thank you for sharing. I don't doubt it for a second!

I recently got this notion in my head to open a happiness portal don't know where the notion came from but it is exciting waiting to see what comes through!!!!!

LOve cheeneka x


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Robbiesan
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Good for you Cheeneka. That sounds awesome.

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Robbie


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Mathew
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G'day Robbiesan

Interesting Mr Robbiesan.

Any ideology that fixates us to a certain way of thinking & believing, & everything from this we fear should be avoided only if we really want change. If we don't want change this kind of recreating the same thing over & over again is fine.

The controlling factors of the ego tell us to fixate ourselves to certain ideologies that make the most sense to us at the time & an ideology that also makes us feel secure & safe. The ego needs to feel secure within it's cage or more precisely a closed box even though it is suffering.

At the moment I've poked holes in the box & all this light is flooding in but my ego feels secure within this box so I'm not venturing out at the moment. I allow the controlling factors of the ego to influence my life at present but that is changing. I love being expressive of the ego but I have become weary of the unnecessary destructiveness of such control.

Socially & culturally we have been brought up to think in a certain way, actually we have been collectively, as a whole, brought up in this way. It’s very hard for some people to break from this behavioural pattern & yes it is learned behaviour which has taken over from thinking for ourselves.

The light from outside this box is collective but it’s now free will thinking for ourselves instead of others thinking for us. We think, because we are now going to think for ourselves outside the box it’s not collective, that couldn’t be further from the truth I feel.

The ego loves collectiveness, it doesn’t want to be left on it’s own especially when it’s suffering & not at the top of the pile, allowing others to think for us feels secure but of course it’s not. When the light from outside the box comes through to us at first we see ourselves thinking for ourselves thus we feel we have lost our security, it doesn’t even seem collective but it is.

This free will thinking from outside the box is collectively about thinking for ourselves, it’s still collective because everyone is now thinking for themselves. It’s just a different way of thinking to what we have been conditioned to accept.

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Mathew




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Robbiesan
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Re: Story + Belief
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Thanks Mathew. I see where you are coming from. We will only be/do/have what we are ready to. My thinking here is that I can think anything I want. So what do I really want?

For myself, I understand that I do influence the collective, and at this time, I am reversing from being inflluenced by the collective (meaning same old same old, the more things change, the more they stay the same).

I am seeing all this work as "my highest good is Life's highest good." I am ready to move foward, and no longer allow fear and unquestioned beliefs to run my life. I do understand that some people are not ready for this yet. However, knowing what is possible is half the battle. What and when a self does with this information is another story.

You said "It’s just a different way of thinking to what we have been conditioned to accept." I agree. I am choosing what to think, rather than taking on another's truth as my own and as absolute truth. In this I am giving me back to myself and choosing to consciously create, rather than living by the default beliefs I took on while growing up, or how our world appears to be. Individual and collective reality are tied together, as we are One.

I am at the point in Life where I just feel like going for it. Up until recently I too allowed my egoic fears and desires to run my life (that safe little box). Not to say this sill doesn't happen to some degree now, but less and less so. It's a choice I make because I am ready. It's a 100th monkey kind of thing. I'd rather influence the collective in a positive expansive way. I am not waiting for anyone. It's on me, my choice.

Baby steps, as one is ready to take them.


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Robbie


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Mathew
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G'day Robbiesan

Yes it's fine in anyway we think depending on if we want real change or not. Have I the right to judge someone who likes to express the controlling factors of the ego? As soon as I wrote this question I laughed, of course not. If I was to expect others to stop expressing the ego in such ways wouldn't I then trying to push my ideology onto others thus think for them?

I'm all about others thinking freely for themselves in anyway they want to think but for me allowing others to destructively think for me is passing.

We have been brought up fearing, what would have happened if we were brought up without fear? This reality would be some what different to what it is today I feel.

I hope you didn't mind but I spread your thread around on the net with your quote/saying at the head of it. I've posted it on my blog with a link back to this thread.

If you have a problem with this please tell me.

Love
Mathew

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Cheeneka
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HI Mathew,

You are changing before my very eyes.

Lateral thinking is a blessing, I am away with the fairies sometimes and sometimes I am away with the animals!! Other times I am opening a portal of happiness. welcome to my crazy world where anything is possible, anything can happen and usually does!

I love you for your sincerity Mathew, we do not always agree but we are both whacky enough and think outside the box enough to know that we are changing everything.

LOve cheeneka x

Edited by Cheeneka on 02/28/14 06:04 PM.




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Mathew
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G'day Cheeneka

quote:

You are changing before my very eyes.



As we all are, I didn't see it at first but I am now seeing this within what ever we believe in.

Yes we are both loony's but I would rather be a loony than a straight thinker.

It's a good thing we don't agree on everything, we wouldn't be as useful to each other, we have both grown through our disagreements. It's been great disagreeing with you maturely & without too much ego, I dearly thank you for that.

Yes I'm starting to take hold of the change, each within their own footsteps!!

Love dearly,
Mathew

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Matthew and Cheenka, you have made a connection on here that is meaningful.


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Robbiesan
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Thanks Mat. I think we're on the same page, literally! Ok, kidding aside, I think we are on the same page, just different spots. All of us are where we are. Some things will not make sense. Some things will oppose our current beliefs and we'll shove them aside. We may come to them later and see them more clearly, differently because who we are has changed some since.

That's the thing. I learned to fear a great deal growing up. Fear has kept me stuck in many ways. It's not a bad thing at all. I see everything I have experienced as part and parcel of my path. In Conversations with God it says that everything is a gift from self to self. From an "we're only human" perspective this may not be seen or understood. Yet, as human beings we are so much more, and that is what I am ready to go for.

You see, I wonder how many lives might I have not allowed myself to be/do/have more, by choosing to be limited and fitting in, compromising who I really am thinking that's the way to be loved etc. It's just not cutting it for me anymore. I acknowledge the box of my own making, and also that it is imaginary. The more I look into the beliefs held within my subconscious, it's like "wow, I believed that?" Anyone who delves into themselves will also find much that they believe, but do not have to, and moreso that being our true self (who we were born as) would not believe—given the choice.

I am living by this: does this story/belief empower or disempower me? does this story/belief cause me to contract in fear, or expand in love? does this story/belief cause me to compromise who I am in order to fit in? does this story/belief cause me to believe in an awesome world or one filled with pain and suffering? (I am keeping in mind there may be myriad lifetimes and Universes, so what's the problem with expanding our potential in this one? How many other live was "we're only human" our mantra?)

If you have never seen this little vid called Lambert The Sheepish Lion, check it out on YouTube. I remember seeing this when I was like 8yr old. It was just a cartoon then, but as an adult I can truly appreciate the message so much more, and here I am seeking to take off the sheeple clothing. The Lion Heart Awakens. It is a possibility for all of us, but it does take courage, determination, staying power, and heart to walk such a path. It is not for everyone (unless it is).

Thanks as always for a thoughtful discussion. Mathew you are a beautiful heart and don't let anyone tell you otherwise. *hugs*

I say this to all of you who read this. You are a beautiful heart too. Allow your beautiful heart to open and fully bloom. Let your mind expand with possibilities rather than seeking absolute truths. Those absolute truths are the answers which can end the questioning (the eternal mystery). It is questions such as "what else is possible?" etc. that keeps Self engaged and motivated. All eternity you say? How shalt though keep busy?

Mathew, you have my permission to share this thread. I am glad to know that anyone who may be interested now has more to look at than conventional wisdom allows for. At the very least "things to consider." So, thank you for having the courage to share and walk your path.

Sorry for the long post folks. Between the writer in me, and the stuff I want to share... just getting it out there.


Love you all!
Robbie


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Mathew
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03/01/14 08:31 PM


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G'day Serenity01

I think we have shown you can disagree & discuss such disagreements without getting narky or abstruse within our replies to each other, we just don't take it personally.

Many times have I been rigid within my beliefs & found out later on that I wasn't quite altogether correct within my assumptions. I think we have listened & learnt form each other, in other words we have grown together.

Love
Mathew

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Mathew
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G'day Robbiesan

By my late teens I knew I had a choice of what story I was going to live my life by, I chose the story based on fear & I don't for one minute regret such a choice. Ever since then I knew I was living in a story I chose .

I don't, these days, see a right or wrong within other people's chosen story no matter what the story is either it be expressing the ego to the max or not expressing the ego at all. It's an extremely peaceful existence unless I too become overly expressive of the ego.

I got a very good response from posting your thread & my reply to your thread on spiritual orientated Google communities.

(((((((Hugs))))))) my friend, keep up the good work.

Love
Mathew



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Reframing is a very powerful process.


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Robbiesan
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I hear ya Mathew. For myself I didn't realize how much choice I had until later in Life. The dark night of the soul for me was in my mid 20's. After reading so many books and connecting dots where perhaps it just wasn't necessary, I chose fear. "What if...?" <-- just one of those can throw you (depending on what follows in the 'what if' statement). Despite how brutal it all felt, I too see the value in my path. At the very least it has made me so much more understanding, loving, compassionate, and patient. It has also taught me that darkness is not a bad thing; Self is being what it is. "Know thyself" Ahhh... so much to experience.

The neat thing is how we can discuss aspects of our paths, and despite our individual perspectives, there are still similarities which we can relate to. That's important. It's all valid, and I too have had to let go of right/wrong, good/bad, inferior/superior. It is what it is. Self is...

Thanks again for sharing. Even if this stuff helps one person along their path, then I am glad for that.


Love,
Robbie


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Robbiesan
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Yes it is WindSong. It has literally made a world, and more, of difference for me. All the years of searching, seeking to understand, and it came back full circle to the simplest of things. Wow... had I known this years ago. On the same note my journey would not have been the same.


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Robbie


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