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A Christian Perspective on Psychotic Disorders
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disclaimer: I am not a health care practitioner and do not advocate a turning away from medication nor treatment.

Psychiatry does not know the cause of psychotic disorders. Modern research merely "implies" that it is a brain disorder. This is nothing but a poor educated guess. For thousands of years it was known to be evil spirits to drive a person mad. The word madness was changed to insanity and now to a psychosis. The treating physicians would drill holes in people's heads to release the evil spirits. The problem with this is that evil spirits do not reside in a person's head. And needless to say, this form of treatment killed a number of patients. Frontal lobotomies would leave patients with brain damage and yet no cure. Physicians would subdue patients with excessive electric shock and heavy drugs. Research shows a chemical imbalance in most psychotics today. This would parallel cases with a history of drug abuse. The brain disorder that psychiatry has discovered would be brain damage caused by some drugs. Drugs like crystal methamphetamine and crack cocaine are sins that bring evil spirits into a person's life. The paranoid drug user believing that the cops are following them is being deceived by evil spirits who are masquerading as cops. Many cultures today still teach the truth that psychotic disorders are caused by evil spirits. Psychiatry has failed to discover the cause of these disorders and they have also failed to find a cure. Some psychiatrists today will tell their patients that their symptoms may be due to evil spirits. Good spirits are not the cause of psychotic disorders. Jesus Christ died so that our souls would be salvaged (restored) and we would not end up as an evil spirit in the afterlife. God, Jesus and the angels reach out to help some of these psychotic people by steering them away from demons and the dead. This is the reason why some psychotics claim to have seen and/or heard God, Jesus and angels. It is unrighteous how modern day psychiatry unwittingly discredits the testimonies of God's lowly witnesses.

Psychology is part of the course curriculum required to become a priest today. There are few people that would know some of the works of evil spirits upon mankind today. The priests trained in exorcisms and permitted to perform them would have a better understanding. 100 years or so ago, before psychiatry, the Catholic Church taught that psychotic disorders were caused by evil spirits. I believe that this is no longer taught do to lawsuits and the Church's reputation.

Evil spirits do indeed cause mental illnesses like schizophrenia. I believe that a healthy lifestyle with psychiatric treatment if needed and spiritual growth can benefit a person with a psychotic disorder.

Some crystal methamphetamine abusers report seeing "shadow people". What they see is the dead;

Psalm 23:4. Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil; For You are with me; Your rod and Your staff, they comfort me.

1 Peter 5:8-11. Be sober and vigilant. Your opponent the devil is prowling around like a roaring lion looking for [someone] to devour. Resist him, steadfast, knowing that your fellow believers throughout the world undergo the same sufferings. The God of all grace who called you to His eternal glory through Christ [Jesus] will Himself restore, confirm, strengthen, and establish you after you have suffered a little. To him be dominion forever. Amen.



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Re: A Christian Perspective on Psychotic Disorders
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Researchers are limited to studying the physical. They lack knowledge of things spiritual. This is the reason that they haven't found the cause of psychotic disorders like schizophrenia. They have noticed it can be hereditary (genetic)..This is do to one or more close family members having evil spirits in their lives. When these people pass away and even before, the spirits will sometimes go to a familiar child and/or an adult.

Those who could not hear the music thought those dancing to be insane. - unknown author


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Re: A Christian Perspective on Psychotic Disorders
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Not everyone believes in "evil spirits". I certainly don't. As a deeply spiritual person, I still have a profound respect for science. Science isn't always right because it's dynamic and changes as new information is discovered. But neither is any spiritual or religious path always right. Hopefully, those of us on spiritual or religious paths are open to change and not stuck in god-in-a-box dogma.

There isn't one known cause for schizophrenia, but treatment methods are quite good for most people with schizophrenia. Symptoms often subside in middle age and older years. Medication and psychosocial interventions are wonderfully effective these days.

It's a terrible brain disease that robs young people in the prime of life. "Evil spirits" don't cause illnesses. Something that doesn't exist has no power. It's okay to use science! Smart people know that spirituality and science can and do go hand-in-hand quite often.

Researchers, btw, do not lack knowledge of spiritual or religious things. They simply know how to separate issues. In this case, "evil spirits" appears to be the result of misguided or misunderstood religious concepts, not simple spirituality.


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Re: A Christian Perspective on Psychotic Disorders
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Forgot to add that not all Christians believe in "evil spirits". I'd venture to say that it's a minority of Christians who hold such a belief.

So perhaps a better title for this thread would be something like, "My personal interpretation of Christianity's perspective on psychotic disorders".



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Re: A Christian Perspective on Psychotic Disorders
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Modern western medicine has developed drugs which can suppress the symptoms of mental illness quite well in many cases and thus manages mental illness with a chemical approach.
But another and I feel more balanced approach to understanding mental health problems comes from a spiritual scientific understanding. There is a displacement of soul and life forces that ought to remain held in the metabolic system of organs. If these forces are somehow released and displaced into the waking day consciousness of the mind then mental health issues arise. These issues vary depending on which organs are affected. This is saying that there are organic process involved in mental health issues. Hallucinations and then likley to arise.
From another point of view all illness is tied up with past lives and karma. Also, if these displaced forces take on a chaotic life of their own which our conscious forces of control can't keep in order then it may be possible for other entities to penetrate the displaced energy and exaccerbate the chaotic state of consciousness.
For those people who have not completely sucumbed to materialism and its belief systems and who practice a healthy form of spiritual development, they know from first hand experience that the universe consists of varying degrees of consciousness and these various consciousnesses are spiritual entities. We are one such entity albeit embedded in a physical body.
A great challenge for humanity today is to be able to understand the difference between mental health problems and healthy spiritual experiences. Modern western psychiatery has yet to do this. Also, many people who have mental health problems think they are having a spiritual experience. In a way they are but it is a spiritual experience of their pathology that they are experiencing rather than healthy spiritual development.


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Re: A Christian Perspective on Psychotic Disorders
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Re: A Christian Perspective on Psychotic Disorders
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All the symptoms of schizophrenia can be explained spiritually.

Those who could not hear the music thought those dancing to be insane. - unknown author


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Re: A Christian Perspective on Psychotic Disorders
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I agree that all the symptoms of schizophrenia can be explained spiritually and treated as well if it is understood that the complexities of spirituality are intrinsically interwoven with the human physical body and that one doesn't fall into the mistaken notion that spirit and matter are separate. This is one of the most disastrous and false applications of thought ever introduced into human thinking. Spirit created the human physical body and continues to enliven, ensoul and spiritualise it. Other spiritual beings also play a part.


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Re: A Christian Perspective on Psychotic Disorders
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Re: A Christian Perspective on Psychotic Disorders
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Everything can be explained via religion or spirituality. And there are as many of those "explanations" as there are religious sects and spiritual paths.


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Re: A Christian Perspective on Psychotic Disorders
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Ocean,

you said "Forgot to add that not all Christians believe in "evil spirits". I'd venture to say that it's a minority of Christians who hold such a belief."

The truth is that the majority of Christians believe in evil spirits.

Those who could not hear the music thought those dancing to be insane. - unknown author


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Re: A Christian Perspective on Psychotic Disorders
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I stand by my comments. There are different ways to interpret "evil spirits" and as used in terms of psychosis, they do not exist. And most Christians would certainly agree. Christianity and science (which includes medicine) are not oppositional. (And by "Christian" I refer to all the sects, from Catholic to Mormon to Methodist to Presbyterian to the so-called non-denominational sects and all the other many sects of Christianity.)



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Re: A Christian Perspective on Psychotic Disorders
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I would like to reiterate that we must overcome the mistaken notion that spirit and matter are separate. This is one of the most disastrous and false applications of thought ever introduced into human thinking. Spirit created the human physical body and continues to enliven, ensoul and spiritualise it. Other spiritual beings also play a part. I repeat myself because we were created by the creator and the nine hierarchy of spiritual beings as mentioned in the bible: angels, archangels, archai, powers, virtues, dominions, thrones, cherubim, seraphim and elemental beings all of whom work together with the creator, christ and holy spirit.
We weren't just created seperated off and left to our own devices. We continually exist within the spheres of each and everyone of those spiritual beings mentioned above. We could not exist for a second if we the spirits seperated from us.
There is a counter force of hierarchical beings Soradt (the anti christ), satan, lucifer and all their dominions who also influence us.
All spiritual systems have some relationship with spiritual beings.
If the physical, life, soul and spirit aspects of our human selves are out of balance and we do not have control of our faculties then the counter forces will take advantage including at the extreme where mental health issues are manifesting but not only then. Also in our everyday behaviour. Every thought, feeling and action will put us in a particular relationship with each and every spiritual force in the spiritual world. We are a spirit incarnated into matter. We are the microcosm of the macrocosm. Spiritual beings are continuously working with us, in us, and through us. Ultimately we must develop the consciosness to work super consciously in full recognition with these beings.
So it stands top reason that when christ drove demons out of the sick that was exactly what he did.




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I have been thinking, and here are my thoughts on what I wrote before . . .

Jesus Christ would be Christian.

God would be Judaistic


Hope you all have a happy Friday!


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It is agreed that Judaism & Muslim religions only recognise the Creator principle. Christianity recognises the tripartite principles of Creator, Christ & Spirit. That is of course unless one aspect is given emphasis over another such as when Christ is replaced by Jesus and a human historical biography replaces the divine principle of Love. This then is also emphasising the creator principle.


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With regards to another spiritual stream not necessarily Buddhism but the Buddha force and Christ rather than faith based religion will unite in the following way:At present, it is not required of people to combine their intelligence with an equal degree of morality. As we advance, it will no longer be possible for these two qualities of the human soul to be kept apart, or to exist in unequal measure. Someone who, according to the reckoning-up of his previous incarnation, has become particularly intelligent without being moral, will in his new incarnation possess only a stunted intelligence. To help us advance our morality an individuality who is currently a Bodhisattva will become the successor of Gautama Buddha, who was on earth in 500 BC. The reckoning of time this will be in about 3,000 years when this great teacher of mankind, the Maitreya Buddha, will have become able to act as interpreter of the Mystery of Golgotha (Christ’s Sacrifice) in a very different way from what is possible to-day. The ordinary earthly organisation of man cannot yet provide a physical body capable of doing what this teacher will be able to do approximately 3,000 years hence. there currently exists no larynx capable of producing the sounds of the speech that will be uttered when this Bodhisattva rises to the rank of Buddha. There is, as yet, also no human language through which verbal teaching could exert the magical effects that will spring from the words of that great teacher of humanity. His words will flow directly to men's hearts, into their souls, like a healing medicine; nothing in those words will be merely theoretical. At the same time, the teaching will contain — to an extent far greater than it is possible to conceive to-day — a magical moral force carrying to hearts and souls a full conviction of the eternal, deeply significant brotherhood of intellect and morality.


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