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Newwaters
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Christianity is not spiritual
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Many people believe that Christianity is a type of spirituality. After researching this, I have seen how Christianity has deceived many and caused spiritual harm. True spirituality brings freedom, and being brave enough to research and deal with one's biases is a
major step in the spiritual journey. "The survival and prosperity of this vicious hoax on humanity requires only ONE thing- A LACK OF KNOWLEDGE!" Source: (http://exposingchristianity.org/)

Anyone else have experiences/opinions on breaking free of Christianity?


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Lauterb
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Re: Christianity is not spiritual
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Sorry but you are messing up religions and Jesus lessons.
The Bible has several flaws due to translations and interventions.

To be short how the Reincarnation concept/words were banned from the Bible:

The second Council of Constantinople in the year 553, declared: "Everyone who defend the mystical doctrine of pre-existence of the soul and the consequent astonishing view that it returns, let him be accursed."
Until this time, the doctrine of rebirth and karma was accepted by the Christian Church.
The history of the Second Council of Constantinople had a remarkable event with the figure of the Emperor Justinian, a theologian who wanted to know more theology than the pope. Justinian tried to reenter the Monophysites among the Orthodox church because he feared that the Monophysites, led by Severus of Antioch, to depart and return to Persia. He organized the first conference in the palace between Orthodox and Monophysites, for which invited six Orthodox and six monophysite trying to define the differences between the doctrines.
The pope, Vigilius, despite being in Constantinople, refused to attend the council convoked by the emperor nor was represented. The council pressed by the emperor excommunicated the pope. Pope Vigilius just recognizing the council in exchange for the suspension of his excommunication.
The wife of Justinian named Theodora, was a great influence on her husband's government affairs and even in what he referred to theology. It was she who settled the Egyptian monks and Syriac clergy in the various palaces of the capital and especially in the palace of Hormisdas, who had become the center of Monophysite propaganda.
Why was she a prostitute, her former colleagues felt proud and proclaim such an honor. But this fact provoked and constituted a disgrace, causing send kill all five hundred prostitutes of Constantinople.
Christians of the time began to call her killer and say it should be killed, five hundred times in future lives. This would be your karma for sending murdering his former colleagues hundred prostitutes.
From there, Theodora came to hate the doctrine of reincarnation and how sent and ruled amid world through her husband, she decided to go for a Hard Target against this doctrine, and against his biggest supporter who was Origen.
The council dealt with two basic questions: Monophysitism and Origenism. The Origenism advocated apocatastasis the universe (revolution of a star) and Reincarnation. The council condemned the Origenism in clear and severe terms.
All this led to what we have quoted above, the condemnation of Origen held by Menas Patriarch and his bishops in Constantinople.




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Re: Christianity is not spiritual
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Christianity certainly did a number on me and I still have not recovered from all the spiritual damage.


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Re: Christianity is not spiritual
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For a majority of my life I have been trying to resolve my issues with Christianity. In order to gain insight I went on the exposingchristianity website. It is strange when the information there is more enlightening than anything in Christianity. I am not saying that more rules about forcing yourself to do pleasurable things is any better than rules telling you to be repressed is something that interest me. It just seems like a less judgemental approach. Overall, though, I do not feel either approach works since they are not balanced. Spirituality needs to be free flowing like water.


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Jcorb
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Re: Christianity is not spiritual
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Hi Lauterb
Thank you for your indepth discussion re Christianity and reincarnation & karma. The religious institutions have a lot to answer for - not just in recent times but going as far back as the 6th century AD.
Christ needs to be rediscovered outside of religious entities to understand the true nature of Christ. Reincarnation & karma are also a critical part of this understanding.


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Ketzer
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Re: Christianity is not spiritual
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I expect most if not all religions end up being abused by man to achieve worldly ends. Marx was famous for referring to religion as the opiate of the masses. I believe it’s the third of the Ten Commandments that says you should not take the name of God in vein. How ironic that most of the major Abrahamic faith leaders are the primary violators of that 3rd commandment. From what I can glean from the bible, and the texts that were banned by the church, is that Christ was not particularly fond of the religious institutions of his day either. He more or less called them a bunch of frauds and hypocrites and told them they did not know what they were talking about and were actually leading people in the wrong direction. Which kind of pissed them off, and of course since the religions figures of the time were cooperating with Rome in trying to keep the population under control, it pissed off Rome as well, so they were more than happy to execute him. How ironic (if not surprising) that 2000 years later, the Sadducees and Pharisees are still around and now calling themselves Christians. If I want to understand what Christ had to say, I think I will skip the self-serving bastardized version the religions authorities teach and figure it out for myself. When it comes to religion, spiritual anarchy is the best course to take.


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Holly
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Re: Christianity is not spiritual
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I had the opposite experience.

I spend a lot of time with angels, I have pretty much daily contact with them, and over the years I've seen how spiritual they are. It sort of rubbed off on me and I've started to lean TOWARDS religion despite always thinking before that real spirituality was divorced from Christianity. I started to feel drawn and pulled to go to the cathedral I like in a nearby city. I went quite a few times, then one day I walked in, thinking....this is stupid, why am I here? God doesn't exist in a church. And I was GOBSMACKED to see the rafters PACKED with angels. They had the UTMOST respect for the service, for the building and the clergy, and the congregation!

I got to speaking with the angels in the cathedral and I realized that they don't go there because they feel Christianity is the one true religion. They go there because it's ONE of MANY true religions. It has aspects of truth. People go there in faith and they can use that to lift us closer to real divinity.

I've realised that a person can be religious and not be limited. As long as you have very little fear and judgement in your psyche, once you've done some spiritual work and you don't feel the need to use things in your life to have power or ego trips, religion can be very healthy for people. It's only when people haven't done that work, they're spiritually immature overall, and they use religion as an excuse to manipulate or have an ego trip or lord their faith over others that religion is a problem.

I think Christianity is like a pair of hedge trimmers. You can use them for the purpose they were intended or you can use them very unwisely, or even to harm people or yourself! You have to be strong minded and secure as a person, and have a strong personal connection so you get your guidance from God and not other people to be a “balanced” religious person, IE, someone who doesn't misuse religion as an excuse to do bad things.

Many of the lessons in Christianity, being humble, being kind, compassionate, loving. Giving to the poor, trusting in God or Source, whatever you call it. Christianity (when you focus on the loving aspects of it) teaches us to be opposite to the somewhat shallow and very materialistic way of life we're all being encouraged to indulge in. It also teaches self control and self reliance. It also gives comfort. I think that's actually very valuable. So long as you use it right and don't abuse it.

When people do abuse it, of course it becomes destructive. If you take passages from the bible out of context, or apply the context you WANT to see to justify being nasty or destructive, or you assume it's complete when it's clearly been translated and edited many times etc, those are harmful practices IMO. I don't think a reasonable God would expect Christians NOT to think for themselves and exercise their own judgement. He'd say...read it and if you agree then follow. Not just....Follow or else. Obviously that's church leaders looking for power! In some ways yes it's a hoax, because evil men obviously set Christianity as it is today to gather wealth and fame for themselves, but if you become spiritually more adept and go to Christianity and only take the loving aspect away with you, and treat the rest as bad stuff human beings have made up for their own ends, then it's helpful. That's what I do with it anyway. I think God wants me to use my brain LOL. Not just be a sheep. Otherwise why did he give me one at all LOL?



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Re: Christianity is not spiritual
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I can not deny Christianity. When I was a 9 year child, I saw Jesus in all white, dressed as a shepherd on the wing of an airplane while it was still boarding. I've heard Father God's voice say, "the battle against good and evil has been here since the beginning of time". His voice sounds of greatness not of this world. Power wisps around His words as He speaks. I have seen the Holy Spirit. Had relationships with both angels and demons. And I have seen and heard the unhealthy dead who are without God in the afterlife. I have also witnessed many truths of the Holy Bible. To me, Christianity is the truest spiritual faith there is.


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