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Mathew
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12/23/12 05:28 PM


There is nothing mystical
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“There is nothing mystical about the unknown only the known, so if you are questioned about your beliefs in mysticism just say it’s only mystical to you as you not the understanding of something more than you believe!!!”.....Love Mathew


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Serenity01
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02/05/13 02:05 AM


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Re: There is nothing mystical
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I think I understand what you're saying.


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Risingtide
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Re: There is nothing mystical
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IMO, instead of dismissing the questioner with a cheap answer it is your duty to demystify the things which are not clear to him.


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Ijinfuhen
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06/19/13 04:31 PM


Re: There is nothing mystical
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It`s funny i did the same thing a while ago and i was met with hatred, somehow a lot of people are content with the mystery even though it can only bring misery and simply to me it sounds insulting, as if my brain couldn`t handle what is.

So indeed mystics watch yourselves, because we are done not knowing for long enough.

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Tawmeeleus
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06/19/13 05:09 PM


Re: There is nothing mystical
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Gosh!

What is a mystic in your opinion?

You say you are an 'energy user' no exceptions!

what exactly does that mean?


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Mathew
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06/19/13 07:05 PM


Re: There is nothing mystical
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An extract from my blog will explain this more clearly.

There is nothing mystical about the unknown only the known: Just because it’s unknown doesn’t make it mystical & the reason the known is mystical is that it’s a wonder to experience such things which makes life magical. We think because we can’t explain an occurrence logically it has to be mystical/supernatural in some way, what if anything mystical to us is more of the natural world than the world we know? The unknown world wouldn’t be so mystical after all only the known.



so if you are questioned about your beliefs in mysticism just say it’s only mystical to you as you not the understanding of something more than you believe!!!: This is saying you already live in a known life of mysticism by living such a magical existence & to see something as just mystical is showing ignorance of something you don’t know because you only believe in what you know anything else is said to be mystical therefore inapt.



We only have a conscious understanding in what we know, our understanding can’t go beyond our consciousness therefore anything out of the ordinary beyond our understanding is labelled as mystical & inapt because it makes no sense to our present conscious understanding. What if it was really the other way around, what if it’s the known that is mystical & an unnatural existence to what we really are which is pure consciousness/spirit?

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Mathew

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Ijinfuhen
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06/30/13 12:05 PM


Re: There is nothing mystical
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It means what the words imply, somebody that uses energy.
I use energy to perform all kinds of things that are correlated with energy, i design manners of using energy and i design systems on how to use energy in more complex manners then simply making energy balls as some sort of measure of power, really if a ball is all someone is capable off and feels like it is a masterful accomplishment i`d shove one of my systems in front of them and ask them to perform it so they can taste the difference.

In the hopes they too become better at what they do.

But in order to create complexity you either need simplicity and repetition, or difference and stacking.
But foremost you need the know how, so if something is shrouded in mystery then there is no way of finding out what makes it tick and thus to make something appropriate to deal with it.

You need that knowledge in order to do that, so mystery is something wich naturally challenges growth or progress.
Sometimes it is used to leave something in a prolonged state of we don`t know and we don`t wanna know either.

I think that is a wrong thing to do, find out what it is and deal with it sounds like a much better option to me.
So i`d say mysticism is something we should overcome.



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Mathew
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06/30/13 04:01 PM


Re: There is nothing mystical
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G'day Ijinfuhen

An interesting way in looking at it.

The physical world is mystical & yes we are finding out about it through science for instance & no stone should be unturned so yes I utterly agree with you, we can find out who we are better through the physical world than any supposed mystical world I believe as the physical world is full of diversity & we always learn more from diversity than anything else & this is why I find the physical worlds so mystical magical.

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Ijinfuhen
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07/03/13 08:22 AM


Re: There is nothing mystical
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Well the mystical is simply something because you don`t have any further information on it, not specifically what world, since in inner worlds or in the normal daily life world mysticism exists, thus shrouds and thus information lacks.

Mysticism is more meant for a magic trick, you aren`t supposed to see how it works and you get fooled basically.

But with magic tricks that is what makes the wonder.

However with things where there is no reason for us to be fooled and see the sparkles is not something you should practice with things wich in the end cause people to become stupid, or divided, or well same thing if you ask me.

So i can agree that sometimes you need to be fooled as long as it is entertainment, i like sparkly shiny stuff too after all.

But when it comes to realizing the world or any other world for that matter, i wish not to be fooled.
In things in wich i could lose my life, i do not wish to be fooled.
In terms of worldview and my place within it, i do not wish to be fooled.
When i`m buying a subscription to something, i do not wish to be fooled.
When i create things with energy, i do not wish to be fooled.

So you can imagine my point being a bit more clear.



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Mathew
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07/04/13 06:21 AM


Re: There is nothing mystical
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G'day Ijinfuhen

Your not getting where I am coming from, this physical life is the wow factor not some unbeknownst reality but the one we are experiencing, it's mystical & magical because we are here experiencing it, I don't mean it in the same technical sense as you it's more emotional & this is where a lot of logical minded people get it wrong as they can't think emotionally.

Ijinfuhen there is nothing wrong in thinking emotionally now & again & in actual fact it can teach us so much if we allow it, in other words this quote is an emotionally driven statement not a perpetually analytical quotation!!

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Mathew



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Ijinfuhen
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07/10/13 03:25 PM


Re: There is nothing mystical
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There is a difference between emotional thinking capabilities(empathy) and having your emotions get in the way of your critical thinking.

A balloon is wonderful and it is colourful and it is like magic, it makes one happy.

But in the end it is just a piece of inflated rubber.
I see a balloon and i get the hey this is nice and magical, but i also think this is a piece of inflated rubber.

It is not seperation of thinking here, but the combination of it in a ballanced manner.

Otherwise many balloons will infatuate you but you will forget remember it is just a piece of inflated rubber, or the other way around it is only a piece of inflated rubber and that is it, no matter how cute, fun, nice etc it would make me feel.

Don`t switch that wich is with awe, and don`t switch that awe with what it is either.

So in that regard it is not that i don`t understand or get where you are coming from.
It is just that i simply don`t agree with being biassed in only awe or only logic, and my likes for something doesn`t fade if it is explained what it really is.

In that regard i can fill my awe with the blanks by adding logic.
A fiend of mine likes fireworks, he is in awe of them, the bigger the better, the shinier the prettier.

But he has no illusions that it is all but sparkle sparkle, he knows what it takes to make one, to fire one, to keep in mind the required safeties so that awe is not replaced with horrific accidents.

That is a good ballance.

Enjoying the awe, keeping in mind the reality of the matter.

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