Soulseeker88
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02/15/09 11:45 AM
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 Help transition to vegetarian please
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Hi just seeking a little help please. I was raised as a meat eater however would really like to be vegetarian, it is something I've been thinking about for a long time. Any tips on how to include protein in my diet with meat?
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Nadi
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02/27/09 02:17 PM
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Re: Help transition to vegetarian please
Post: #110004 / Re: Soulseeker88 #109945 | | |
Beans contain protein. When I made the transitition to vegan I added a lot of soy products to my diet - and ended up having too much. A good balance is important. I would recommend getting a good vegetarian cook book to have a balanced diet.
Namaste
Nadi
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Soulseeker88
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03/02/09 01:33 PM
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Re: Help transition to vegetarian please
Post: #110042 / Re: Nadi #110004 | | |
Thanks very much for the help, I've recently started with the soya products and have been eating a lot of beans and surprisingly have not missed meat at all. I've also felt a lot healthier since doing so.
Thank you
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GrizzlyTiger
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08/16/09 07:09 AM
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Re: Help transition to vegetarian please
Post: #110977 / Re: Soulseeker88 #110042 | | |
I think nuts have a lot of protein in them.I`d personally just drink milk lol
Best of luck.
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Ijin
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Re: Help transition to vegetarian please
Post: #112824 / Re: GrizzlyTiger #110977 | | |
Why is not eating meat healthier, when your system is that of a carnivore?
And more importantly for the people who don`t eat meat because they dislike the fac that it is a ife ended, that the substitute looks exactly like the life that would otherwise have been ended?
It are just some things i have wondered about for a long time now.
No offense attempted by the way just curious.^_^
(it`s your own choice after all)
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Nighthawk
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Re: Help transition to vegetarian please
Post: #112825 / Re: Ijin #112824 | | |
3 Almonds Per Day.
'Sup Edgar Casey
My Two Pennies:
It's the preachy ones that get me.
Is the death of a veg lesser than the a cows demise?
Does a watermelon not lament when it's neighbor gets cut?
Doth a plant not expire once plucked from it's mothers earthen embrace?
Just messing
All things in moderation works just fine for me
'Sup Linda "Preachy" McCartney.
That said, with all those yucky processed products and hellish bovine existences out there, I can see the wisdom in backing off the meat.
The best of luck to any and all who can entirely do so.
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Akragon
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09/02/10 11:10 AM
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Re: Help transition to vegetarian please
Post: #112828 / Re: Nighthawk #112825 | | |
a cow would eat you if it had the chance...(jk) But...
Have you ever met a pig? Im not talking about the cutesy ones in the movies, i mean the ones that are actually slaughtered for meat (no they don't slaughter pot belly pigs) If you set foot in a hungry pig's area you would lose a foot or a hand, don't fool yourselves people, we are omnivores we eat meat... We evolved past the plant chewing mammals long ago, vegeterianism is a product of the 1900s, yes i know many religions promote not eating meat but even the people in those religions ate meat before their docterine came into affect. Have you ever seen a tiger or a lion that refused to eat meat? Nope because they work as nature intended...
Yes i know that the treatment of our food before processing is disgusting and inhumain, but we live in a world of corporations that are built to make money...but the fact is, our species has always ate meat, we are the top preditor on the food chain! I garentee that if a huge catastrophy happened where vegiterians couldn't get the vegetables and other nutrients they needed, they would kill and eat meat once again or they would die... its the cycle of life people, you're fooling yourself if you think otherwise.
One day we just might have a situation where theres no shipments to your cities... It wouldn't take much honestly, so when it comes down to it would you still refuse to eat meat when theres nothing else? Being a vegetarian is a luxury most cultures don't have...
So let me tell you this, if the situation called for it, and i was starving...You Vegetarians would be on my menu...
Survival of the Fittest...
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Ijin
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Re: Help transition to vegetarian please
Post: #112830 / Re: Akragon #112828 | | |
Well on that note if you are going to eat people you should avoid the bowel system and the recreational area+waste deposit area, that can ruin your meal.
Also some of the organs you should avoid for obvious reason, hmmm who wouldn`t want to eat the liver of a drunkardXD
Poison bag, waste bag, chemical factory ofcourse you can eat some organs if you prepare them correctly.
And ofcourse you can vary with dishes from all over the world.
Humans are so versatile don`t you agree?
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Goldenserenity7
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Re: Help transition to vegetarian please
Post: #112835 / Re: Akragon #112828 | | |
Hmmmm...meat eating savages! LOL
It's not just the thought of how they process animals for others to eat, it's also that meat is very dirty, full of parasites and now loaded with a lot of nasty chemicals given to them by man. Whatever goes into the animal you eat is also going into you...parasites and all. Maybe most of the parasites are killed during the cooking process, but I'll bet some are not. Pork is the dirtiest meat there is too!
Many people don't know how to combine their foods either so when they sit down to have a nice meal of potatoes and meat, that meal will most likely sit in their intestines and just rot. Sounds yummy, huh!
Survival of the fittest? Well...I can argue that point. If you had no way of killing an animal other than your bare hands, how many animals would you be able to kill? Man does not have speed to catch most of them, nor the strength to fight one, nor the sharp pointy teeth to bite into a live one. If man is truly supposed to kill and eat an animal, then why aren't they equipt to do so? Man is no more a meat eater than a cow.
And you are wrong about saying that if there was nothing to eat but meat, a vegetarian would eat meat. I personally would die first before being forced into anything. BUT, if there were no vegetation, then there would be no living animals, so we would all starve I guess! 
Back to the original question though. Eat lots of hemp seeds. I buy mine at the health food store, and it tastes great in fruit smoothies!
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Ijin
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Re: Help transition to vegetarian please
Post: #112837 / Re: Goldenserenity7 #112835 | | |
Actually that is why even animals use tools to broaden their spectrum.
In our daily lives in the food supplied cities and towns we just got lazy due to abunance aswell as we learned how to make that wich we eat docile.
We just pet the cow feed it and then spike his sorry slab of nutrient.
No reparing food isn`t all that bad of a treatment, you should compare that to illegal hunters, thy torture the animals while taking it`s products.
It is unsightly and stupid and very inefficient to kill with some humane sense of: a quick death.
The cow can count himself lucky to get the pin.
Also as another sidenote that we are not equiped to deal with most prey, one thing we do as a species is huddle together and tag the bull by the horns.
People often say most animals are tenacious but humans belong amongst the most tenacious species of them all.
Thenn the processing of meat does produce some bacteria but our bodies need some bad stuff too.
As weakened down as the human race is especially in cities and towns, eating bad things is actually a way to train your body`s resistance.
And ofcourse by eating something wich was alive you actually partake in life synthesis.
Ofcourse not on some grand scale, but it does provide.
For instance when i am injured or ill, i eat red meat.
I cure faster that way especially the bloody bits since it also contains nutrient ingredients, ofcourse it becomes more of a craft when you add decent cooking and preparation to the whole package.
And it is less expensive then vegetarian food.
In my country at least these products cost dazzling prices compared to the cheap abundance of meat.
So survival style wise in terms of being able to have some left for other important things.
And that alot of companes try to take advantage of vegetarian people and their willingness to pay.
In a television show where they compare products it came out that about 40% of the dutch vegetarian food is bad for your health on a long term and in a lot of cases weren`t made of the ingredients wich the package said it was.
And i have eaten this stuff since i had a girlfriend who was vegetarian and insisted i try it at least once.
It is primarily tasteless, easily takes on the plastic taste of the package, it doesn`t fill the stomach very well, is digested at a high speed ultimatly leading to eating 20 times a day.
And unlike meat even with the same ingredients of nutrients it does not produce life synthesis.
It doesn`t cure me faster as with real meat.
And i make some killer dishes with meat.
So all in all i really see no benefit and in fact feel more screwed over as with the current meat production.
Although i do have my comments about that aswell don`t worryXD
But as i said it is your own choice, but maybe now you know a little more about what it exactly is what you are eating and especially why.
Even when taking these things into consideration i don`t expect you to suddenly start eating meat.
But i do hope you know what you shoved aside and what you shove in^_^
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Akragon
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Re: Help transition to vegetarian please
Post: #112841 / Re: Ijin #112837 | | |
Again, don't be fooled, we are meat eaters 100%...we were the first ape species to use tools, and fire....and we killed each other for sport...without the esential nutrients the meat provided back in the evolutionary process our brains wouldn't have grown the way they did! There we're no vegetarians back then....all humans hunted and ate what they caught, and they would have starved if they didn't. There we no potatoes at the stores LOL no vegetable area...berries, nuts if they could be found and carcuses. Even by todays standards, you can't get the same nutrition by just eating vegies. Only recently they've found that beans and nuts offer similar but yet not the same nutrients as meat provides. Back when this whole vegetarian thing started the ones who were proclaimed as "vegans" we're either disgustingly skinny or majorly fat. Try to find a single example of an extremely healthy Vegan 20 years ago, you won't find one because there wasn't any. Although in the past 20-30 years there have been studies on the subject, and with supliments (pills) you can get the same nutritional value as you can eating meat. Still before the addition of these esential vitamins, there was no such thing as a healthy vegan.
Of course this is all a matter of choice. These days its very easy to remain healthy with out eating our furry friends...
Not my thing though
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Ijin
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Re: Help transition to vegetarian please
Post: #112842 / Re: Akragon #112841 | | |
Even then the quality of your prepared meal counts.
It is part of a healthy way of thinking about food.
It has to taste right, even the effort in preparing it can be tasted.
By the way i know a vegan, years ago he decided to do so, now i remember him as having a normal build, being quite active and full of life lust.
I recently saw him again and he had taken supplement pills for some time, he looked pale and skinny, hardly had any energy to do stuff.
Then i told him why.
He said that i was talking nonsense, and then i showed him my body while explaining how i use it.
He was stunned and next thing i took him out to eat.
I explained the concept of a well prepared meal tasting better, so that when you think of eating as only getting some nutrients, your enjoyment of food takes a hit and that kinda messes something up in the brain.
Now ofcourse that is not the same with vegetarians, as long as what you eat instead is at least properly prepared and that it is enjoyable.
Not like the bad fake meat sticks i had since they just tasted bad vegetarian or not.
But also not my thing, although i can guess in Canada most people just eating meat eh?XD
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Akragon
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Re: Help transition to vegetarian please
Post: #112843 / Re: Ijin #112842 | | |
ya we live in igloos too...
Myself, im on a protein only diet right now. Its called the CK Diet. Only meats, hard cheese, nuts, and vegies. Its a high protein high fat diet, no carbs and less then 60g of carbs if you do eat them...only once a week i get to eat whatever i want. This diet is for people who want to cut fat fast, mainly for anyone looking to get some definition on their body. Lost over 20lbs, finally getting my abs back. Its 100% healthy, no energy loss, and great for repairing muscle.
Heres another question for anyone whos reading this post... Do you think any of our primate ancestors were obese.... as a matter of fact until just recently overly fat people only existed in high society mearly because they could afford to pig out and not exercise.
The fact is we arn't designed to eat just plants, our species has always eaten meat. Want more proof? We all have something called an appendix... its an organ that is no longer in used in any human being, but it is an organ that was once used to aid the digestion of plants. You might notice i said "no longer in use" We have evolved past the plant eating herbavores that we once were. This organ is still used in some animals but only the ones that are strictly herbivore.
Our ancestors learned to used tools to hunt and slaughter animals for consumption because like Golden said, we arn't strong enough to fight an animal for the most part. We're not fast enough to out run them, and we surely can't bite one to death like the great cats. We do however have one thing that other preditors don't have... Intelligents to kill with tools, which is why we are at the top of the food chain.
Its undeniable, we're animals! We are designed to eat meat...
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