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Mathew
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08/18/12 06:45 PM


True spiritual embodiment
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True spiritual embodiment: The purification of one’s soul comes to those who are benevolently trying to change the world for the benefit of all of mankind without recourse from the path of righteousness. To allow ourselves any chance of freeing ourselves from our own tyrannical world one must first & foremost follow the path of true spiritual essence by acknowledging those before them who have done so, people like Jesus, Buddha, Allah & so forth, these are the people we should be desiring & manifesting to be by following in their footprints for a truly enlightened world.
My problem is that scientists have been working on, from at least the roaring twenties, how thought alone can change matter, now this has taken off in leaps & bounds by people mixing a volatile cocktail which now includes spirituality in the equation. There are so many books programs & workshops that endorse these cocktails for self-manifestation these days; the problem is it’s all based on humanistic desires not true spiritual desires, I don’t think the true great spiritual teachers of our reality ever endorsed such behaviour; actually they had very few positions accept the love & admiration of world.
So what are we doing? If we want a peaceful loving understanding world it isn’t gained by manifesting for one’s humans, desire & that is all it is human not spiritual desires, but gained through following in the same righteous path of our great true spiritualists.
At first self-manifesting sounds good & even feels good but like with many seemingly good ideas at the time it has its unforeseen reactions. Example: Take money for instance, before money was introduced to society they bartered but you needed something to barter with, money was introduced & all was well, we know now what the introduction of money manifested, greed!!! The same is with religion, it sounded like a good idea as it brought the populous together as one but as we went on more & more conflicts where developing through slightly different religious beliefs. What happened eventually were the dark ages, man set himself against man over a manifested belief system. I’m afraid I can see the same her with so many getting into self-manifestation for one’s own lustful humanistic desires.
My question is what has self-manifestation got to do with spirituality & a world of love & understanding? Like so many other manifested ideas it’s going to end tragically no matter what the scientist & alike are saying, once again we are being duped into another world which will surpass this one in the degradation of one’s soul even further.
Why am I so against self-manifestation? Again it’s going away from the paths shown by our great spiritual leaders but also again to morning I awoke shaking & felt mighty uncomfortable just like I did before the disastrous explosion of the ill-fated space shuttle. I know there is a lot of lovely kind hearted people on this site that I don’t want hurt through this self-manifestation idea, this is a warning that I keep ignoring & the more I ignore it the worse the feelings get, DO NOT BE DUPED INTO YET ANOTHER GREAT IDEA THAT SOUNDS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, PLEASE THINK ON THIS!!!!
The true spiritualistic embodiment of man is not of man but of God/creative consciousness or whatever not off man’s lustful desires which always lead him into further degradation. We have a chance to make this world into something new & better than it ever has been before by listening & learning from our great spiritual leaders before us, if we listen & learn we are saved but if we continue to go down the road to further degradation God only knows what’s going to happen but I do know this through my warnings, it’s going to get far worse if we follow such paths as self-manifestation, the writing is on the wall for all to see if one desires to notice….Love all Mathew

PS I am a seer of sorts so this warning really shouldn’t be taken lightly as it’s getting stronger the more I get this warning.



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Soffty
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08/18/12 07:52 PM


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Re: True spiritual embodiment
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Nice! Truth is inconvenient, and constitutes a tiny percentage of our current society. It appears that it will be a very long time before we are a truth-based species.

The thing is, I don't think we are expected to get there quickly. We are suppoosed to have some speak up and defend truth, becoming intensely unpopular, but overall we are supposed to take an eternity to accomplish it.

I say this because in my first near death experience, I saw truth, and was left with an overwhelming feeling when I awoke.

It is as it is intended to be. Everything is good. To me that says that we have a reason to be in a poor condition. It may be that we have to display who we really are individually to the universe so we may be categorized.

It may be that we have to make it extremely obvious that we want to avoid certain behaviors. Or maybe it just allows those who will rise above the chance to discover their skills.

Or maybe it exposes the actual limits to the ego, as it is a scientific reality for the soul to exist in this universe.

In any case, I again stand up and applaud my teachers. You rock Mathew.

Wade

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Mathew
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08/19/12 06:15 PM


Re: True spiritual embodiment
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It takes a rock to notice another rock as you have quite wisely displayed but of course only because I agree with you!!

You & I & people like us are the root core or the pioneers of utter truth, we are the beginning of truth so in turn we are going to cop a lot of flak from people who won't or unable to see outside the square.

I presented this on another spiritual site but was totally ignored, I'm not a very good seer but when I get messages like this continually I listen!!!

We have come here to experience physical life with all its huge variety of emotions, we are not meant to be perfect or divine while in realities like this. We come from divineness & are already enlightened beings/entities so why try to replace our physical being with this as we return to divineness anyway eventually. So many want perfection & divineness but we already have that!!!

Love & best wishes Soffty, Mathew



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Goldenserenity
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Re: True spiritual embodiment
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quote:

My question is what has self-manifestation got to do with spirituality & a world of love & understanding?



There are many things a person can manifest into their life. Change your focus if you will.
Sure, many people focus on the physical aspects. They want this and they want that, and when they materialize it, then it's not enough and they want even more. Soon it turns into a frenzy of more, more, more, and greed is found everywhere you look. Material possessions is not what brings us joy. It might for a little while, but this is not our purpose!
Focus on manifesting Love, not just in your life but for everybody out there. Focus on manifesting joy, or manifesting being of service to others.
In my reality, manifesting is not leading me away from my path, it is leading me down my path.
See yourself on a path. Now see yourself at a V shape in the road. To the left is the path of material possessions and to the right is the path of Spiritual Love where no material possessions can be obtained. Which road do you choose? How will you or can you exist on such a path? Will the path to the right lead you off the Spiritual path or will the path to the left?
I can see how the path to the left will lead a person astray.
So, it's all in how one looks at manifesting, what ones focus is.


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Re: True spiritual embodiment
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"The cup of religion is rigid, so it holds the waters of spirituality" - Addressed to Ajah

The cup means nothing without the water...
but if you have water and want to give a drink to someone else you'll need a cup. In the same way If one wishes to transmit the knowledge of spirituality they must have a system set up to teach students (to be masters)....
even if its unintentional everyone develops a spiritual path, a religion of there own....

om shanti
peace..

a Faith for the Aquarian age. the time is to understand that mighty God is in living man....AjahDharma.wordpress



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Mathew
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08/19/12 11:31 PM


Re: True spiritual embodiment
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Agree AngelWings, manifesting for one's own good is one path manifesting for the good of ALL mankind is another path. Our great spiritual teachers chose one of these paths & that is the path we should follow!!!


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Mathew
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08/19/12 11:53 PM


Re: True spiritual embodiment
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ShivaDas...I'm not anti-religious but I do have a mistrust for western religions & their philosophy but in saying this it did start out with the right intentions in mind however it's just man screwed it up. Religion has an important place in society still even today & hopefully it always will.

I don't personally have any strict or dogmatic principles which allow me to wonder around with open eyes, most western religions are quite the opposite. Once one takes on a belief system it can make one ignorant of other beliefs.

“Ignorance is bliss only if you don't want someone else’s truth to overshadow your ego, truth is the belief in nothing which allows one to believe in whatever they want without lies”…Love all Mathew



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ShivaDas
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Re: True spiritual embodiment
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Religion is trial and error without a doubt.

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Ministrywr
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Re: True spiritual embodiment
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Focus on NOT manifesting anything for yourself.... manifest nothing.... Occults are dangerous when things start to manifest. This very word MANIFEST makes me puke. It's like saying some spirits gave you something you'd wish for, so it manifested.




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Ministrywr
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Re: True spiritual embodiment
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which is what i've been saying.... Everything on discussion is occultic leading to a wrong path. Its best not to talk about anything to do with spirituality or religion. Zilch, nothing. Go do gardening instead.... People still don't get it, cuz they've haven;t seen the dangers.


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Re: True spiritual embodiment
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Ministrywr, it appears to me that you are mistaken about the nature of this forum. I had to delete an insulting post of yours already, and what you write contradicts what this forum is all about. You might want to google for a Christian forum instead.


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Goldenserenity
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Re: True spiritual embodiment
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Hello Ministrywr,

I don't really know where you get your information from. You either lived it (an occult existence) in the past or you have had communication with the spirits. Your posts are flat statements (and blatant ones at that), and flat statements are very rarely true.

You said " Everything on discussion is occultic leading to a wrong path"
Well we all have our own paths to follow be it "right" or "wrong". Not everybody is into gardening.

Everyone who shares your world does so with your permission.


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